Death Penalty: What % of innocent deaths is acceptable?

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Death Penalty: What % of innocent deaths is acceptable?

  1. 1-5%

    13 vote(s)
    28.3%
  2. 5-10%

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 10-15%

    2 vote(s)
    4.3%
  4. 15-20%

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    0.0%
  5. 20-25%

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%
  6. Other ( please reply to thread )

    30 vote(s)
    65.2%
  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which percentage of innocent Americans being executed did you each agree was sufficient in order to be able to execute assclowns like the murderers you each described?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's completely besides the point.

    You obviously didn't bother to think about the meaning behind what I stated.

    Go back and think about it again.
     
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  3. BahamaBob

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    You'll have to show me data on any modern criminal who has been unduly executed before your argument has any validity. I said modern because now DNA and other forensic evidence proves to a greater degree that a person is guilty.
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I’m sure you’ve learned a lot by watching Forensic Files and CSI, not all murders are solved with DNA. Add to this the fact there are people on death row now who may or may not have committed the murder in which they were convicted and those convictions were all before DNA was as fully developed as it is now.

    Are you seriously claiming that every inmate on Death Row was convicted with DNA?
     
  5. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is it better for the US to have about 8 million convicted felons with about 4 million of them guilty of violent crimes to be let to wander in and out of jail committing at least 4 million crimes a year, and execute none of them?

    Or is it far better to execute ALL adult repeat violent felons automatically within 6 months of their 3rd or greater violent conviction---since it would be a statistical impossibility for any of them to be innocent after their 3rd conviction.

    Project Innocence Liberals are really anarchists who have no real sympathy for victims of violent crime.

    There are other ways to make the courts more fair and speedy.
    1) Jury trials need an odd number of jurists. 7, 9 or 11. A majority vote is all that should be required for ANY offense to pin guilt.
    2) Intelligence and reasoning skills should be tested, and those qualified jurors with no criminal records with the highest scores should serve.
    3) Limit all appeals for violent felons to 6 months. Repeat violent felons should never have appeals go past the State level.
    4) End long prison sentences and do a 3 step program. Rehabilitation, Hard Labor, then Execution or greater punishment depending on the crime.
     
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    By no means, only an idiot would construe that from what I wrote. DNA evidence is the tool that has freed most of the wrongly convicted. If it had been part of the original trial the accused would never have been convicted. Meaning the evidence now is more overwhelming and accurate. The possibility of someone being convicted due to mistaken identity is much smaller now. I reviewed the cases of several of the 23 criminals executed in 2017. In every case the crime was horrendous and the evidence was undeniable and overwhelming. They all earned their sentence.

    If you have evidence that anyone on death row is innocent you should present your evidence. If not you have no reason to believe that those people were not correctly convicted. There is much more evidence of convicted murders killing other people than innocent people being executed. Execution is more humane than spending decades isolated in a cage. Execution is the right thing to do.
     

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