Judge K, despite Dr. Ford's testimony, will be confirmed and . . .

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Judge K will be confirmed and his confirmation will lead to a greater Dem vote on election day

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Let it go, pal. We have different opinions. If she was able to give the information that you are referring to, you still wouldn't believe her
    because you are a flock member.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Exactly and the longer this drags on the more likely Trump's sexual assaults would rear their ugly heads.
     
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    I'm sure you understand the difference.
     
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    Yes - and yours is driven by your political lean.
     
  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, just like if a woman came forward and declared that I'd gotten drunk and "handsy" with her in our college dorm I'd say 1) I don't recall and 2) sounds about right. I was a horny college student. That doesn't make it right nor would I hide it. It was over 40 years ago. WTF? OTOH, I'm not trying to hide the truth for political reasons. I'm sure you understand the difference.
     
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    She claimed there were witnesses in the room, all of them say it didn't happen. Why do you think THEY are lying? What has she presented to show she is telling the truth?
     
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    Apparently, the Democrats think this precludes you from doing anything meaningful with your life.
     
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    It's been given, to FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS, under threat of a felony it they lie. How many times do you have to be told that? What is it you want investigated you refuse to say. Who is supposed to give this testimony that will prove it occured?
     
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    What if it didn't happen what would you say then? What if all the alleged witness agreed, what would you say?
     
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    wrong.
     
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    Ford is a likely-lying hag and has nothing to offer.

    Firstly, you don't go around with a trauma needing psychiatric care 36 years after a dumb drunken teen pushes you down and tries to yank your pants off. I had kids do that to me several times in my pre-teens and teens and I never sustained "trauma" from it. Give me a break.

    Secondly, if a crime was committed, that should have been reported to the proper authorities - local police - back when it supposedly happened in 1982. You don't wait 36 years, until a guy is about to be confirmed onto the USSC, to suddenly pipe up and demand inquiry. That reeks of a barely-concealed political ulterior motive.

    Thirdly, you don't demand the FBI investigate something that is not within their jurisdiction, decades after a statue of limitations expiration.

    Fourthly, you don't make demands on when and where the accused speaks. This whole case reeks of political maneuvering and such maneuvering should not be taking place if an honest victimization of any kind took place.

    Fifthly, you don't make an unsubstantiated claim - which supposed witnesses are rebutting - and demand a USSC nomination be postponed due to it. With this kind of game-playing, anyone could make up any dumb claim and mess up any election and any appointment, anywhere at any time.

    Ford is at minimum a mental furball with memory problems. At worst she's a calculated liar.

    This is becoming an all to predictable pattern: Dems on threat to lose an election or have a judge appointed they don't like suddenly at the 11th hour produce a "victim" of sex crimes and trot out the feminist attack mob.
     
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    There were no witnesses in the room where the attack took place except for his friend.
     
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    Yep it's not about this woman or her accusations, it's about abortion and how the left are willing to falsely accuse a man and ruin his life because of some perceived threat to it.
     
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    If that were the case, then it only shows the intellectual shallowness of the Democratic voting pool.

    This woman has nothing to offer other than he said/she said, and claimed witnesses who were supposedly present are all calling her bluff.

    But yeah, Democrats are known for creating firestorms related to race and gender on election years to fire up the electorate, so this isn't a new trick. The media's biggest sensationalist unarmed-black-male memes have occurred on election cycle years. I don't believe this is an innocent coincidence.

    4th purported witness claims no knowledge of alleged Kavanaugh assault against Ford

    NOBODY is backing this woman's claims up. I think Ford suffers from a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
     
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    I want the incident to be investigated. Don't know who is to give testimony since this has been glossed over. There will not be any real proof just as there is no real proof In the Trump accusations except the words of 19 women, and his own admission of sexual abuse.
    They say that they don't remember, which is understandable since they are now mature adults with families and do not want death threats and exposure to their personal lives. Besides, it didn't happen to them. How many times do I have to tell you?
     
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    No it's about trying to stop a USSC nomination from Trump before midterms, in hopes Dems will take enough seats after election day to force a nomination more to their liking.

    This is 100% political gambitry and a so-called "sex assault victim" is playing an eager role.
     
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    There's nothing to investigate. Any so-called evidence or witnesses would have had to be looked at when it supposedly happened, in 1982. There is nothing outside of she-said here. Nothing to investigate, literally. Four claimed witnesses have all called bullshit.
     
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    No, they haven't called it bullshit. They have said that they don't remember. The witnesses were at the party and not in the room where it may have occurred.
     
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    “Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford,”

    Desperation has a name, and it's Professor Ford.
     
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    The statue of limitations ran out a long time ago. This is a problem - especially if you want an FBI investigation. Talk about a waste of time. Even if he did do it .. do we want to ruin someones life over one stupid act when someone was a teenager ?

    This is not a case where you have numerous allegations - or you have a victim that was actually raped. This is an allegation of groping - at a drunken high school party 35 years ago - on the basis of he said/she said .. where we will never know what happened.

    Sure we can hear the allegation - but .. what more should be done ? People lie - especially in relation to highly charged politics.

    As stated in previous posts - Kavanaugh should not be confirmed simply on the basis of his anti abortion agenda. Not because he is "anti abortion" .. having that personal belief is fine.

    Why he should not be confirmed is his failure to distinguish the difference between 1) having a personal belief and 2) forcing that belief on others through physical violence (Law).
     
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    Yes because of abortion.
     
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    "If that were the case, then it only shows the intellectual shallowness of the" GOP "voting pool."
     
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    1) That anyone who lies is a sad, dishonorable person.

    2) Which witness? Someone who agreed the assault happened? Someone who said Ford was a drunk cockteaser who deserved what she got? Let's not forget we're talking about a 15 year old girl. Did you support Roy Moore? Did you think all of his accusers were lying sluts, ****s and bitches?
     
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    thank you for sharing.
     
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    You can jump up and down and pound your feet all you want. You can't even say what or who should be investigated. Who else is there to get testimony from and why would it matter to you you won't accept the statements already given.

    What do you think this investigation is going to find we don't already know? Who is supposed to be interviewed who hasn't already?

    No that is not understandable at, they are all quite clear about their memories the only person who claims she isn't is the accuser. She claimed they all witnessed it, they didn't. How many times do I have to tell you. She has no evidence to present, how many times do I have to tell you?
     
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