McSally attacks Sinema for 'treason' in contentious Arizona Senate debate

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    McSally attacks Sinema for 'treason' in contentious Arizona Senate debate
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    Ghosts of campaigns past

    Blue waves in a desert?

    Republican Martha McSally and Democrat Kyrsten Sinema had their only debate last night in a tight race.

    McSally pointed out that Sinema was acting in a treasonous fashion when she previously joined in war protests and said during a radio interview that she “didn’t care” if Americans went out and joined the Taliban to fight against American troops in Afghanistan. (Politico)

    Republican Martha McSally accused Democrat Kyrsten Sinema of “treason” Monday night, latching onto recent reports about Sinema’s comments as an anti-war activist at the end of a contentious, fiery Arizona Senate debate.

    Near the end of the hour-long debate, McSally attacked Sinema over the comments from a radio show in 2003, reported earlier this week by CNN. The host made a hypothetical comment about joining the Taliban, to which Sinema responded: “I don’t care if you want to do that, go ahead.”

    McSally demanded an apology, accusing her fellow congresswoman of saying “it’s okay to commit treason.” Sinema didn’t respond to the attack or explain her past comments, instead accusing McSally of running a negative campaign by using “ridiculous attacks, and trying to smear my campaign.”​



    Sinema refused to engage on the subject, ignoring the accusation entirely and falling back on a generic accusation of “ridiculous attacks and smears” against her campaign. It was really her only option at that point. The recording of the radio interview is available, there’s no denying that she said it.

    Saying that you “don’t care” if Americans go sign up to fight with the Taliban isn’t a winning message even in the most liberal strongholds of the country. If she had tried to explain the remark away she would simply have opened herself up to a rebuttal from McSally, allowing her to keep up the pressure.

    This one is a tight one with some Kavanaugh momentum going McSally’s way at the moment. The latest polling average for the race has the Republican up, but only barely. The most recent ABC poll has McSally leading by six, but during the same time period , the CBS/YouGov survey has Sinema ahead by 3. Both of these are better news for McSally than her standing late in the summer when Sinema was leading in nearly every survey, though not by a wide margin.
     
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    In light of all the other comments and revelations that have surfaced from Sinema, that silence speaks volumes.

    Seems simple to put a quick ad together with the video's that have surfaced, and then her silence during this debate.
     
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    McSally will win easily.
     
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    Typical conservative hysterics.

    If she's committed treason, then why has she been arrested and charged with treason? Why hasn't Trump and his federal prosecutors moved in for the kill? Could it be that she didn't commit treason after all???
     
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    Polls are still tight and Sinema led all of them until the Kavanaugh bounce, though she still leads in 2/3, but barely. She may have to summon the witches again.
     
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    You're reading comprehension kinda sucks. McSally said she acted in "a treasonous fashion" and she did. She did not suggest that she should be charged with treason. As for Jef Sessionzzzzzz he seems to sleep a lot and do little.

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    11 Freakiest Things About Arizona Senate Candidate Kyrsten Sinema

    The contrast between Arizona Republican Martha McSally -- an Air Force veteran -- and Democrat Kyrsten Sinema, a former anti-war protester, could not be starker. In fact, fireworks flew during the first and only Senate debate in Arizona Monday night when McSally accused Sinema of saying, “It’s okay to commit treason.”

    1. She once depicted American servicemen as scary skeletons exporting “terror” abroad on a flyer protesting the Iraq War:

    How Kyrsten Sinema viewed American servicemen ..."portrayed American soldiers as skeletons waging “terror” in the Middle East."

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    How Kyrsten Sinema viewed American servicemen
    Rep. Kyrsten Sinema is the Democratic candidate for the Senate in Arizona. Sinema presents herself as a bipartisan moderate.


    2. Defended men who solicit underage prostitutes

    During an Arizona House hearing in February 2007 when she was an Arizona legislator, Sinema raised concerns about a bill that toughened penalties against individuals soliciting child prostitutes according to video of her remarks. "I don't think that's fair," she said.



    3. Protested the Iraq War in a tutu

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    Brent Bozell

    ✔@BrentBozell

    Fact-checking the "Fact Checkers." @PolitiFact Rates AZ Republican Martha McSally ruled 'Mostly False' that 'No War' protester Kyrsten Sinema denigrated troops protesting the Iraq War in a pink TUTU! http://bit.ly/2Oiagln

    1:53 PM - Sep 15, 2018

    4. Once described herself as a “Prada socialist”

    RNC Research

    ✔@RNCResearch

    Prada Socialist, Kyrsten Sinema, Struggles To Hide Her Radical Past https://gop.com/prada-socialist-sinema-struggles-to-hide-her-radical-past-rsr …

    12:28 PM - Oct 3, 2018
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    Prada Socialist Sinema Struggles To Hide Her Radical Past
    Sinema has campaigned as a moderate, but a glimpse into her past reveals she is even too extreme for her own party—and Arizona

    gop.com

    5. Called Arizona the “crazy” state and the “meth lab of democracy

    Crystal@Cryswolftears
    How disrespectful of the Citizens of Arizona!! Apparently, we ALL are crazy and on Meth!

    Arizona Senate hopeful Sinema once called her state ‘the meth lab of democracy’https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizona-senate-hopeful-sinema-once-called-her-state-the-meth-lab-of-democracy …

    4:22 PM - Oct 12, 2018
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    Arizona Senate hopeful Sinema once called her state ‘the meth lab of democracy’
    Senate candidate Kyrsten Sinema once referred to Arizona as the “meth lab of democracy” – a revelation that follows the Democrat making other past critical comments about her state.

    6. Said she didn’t care if a constituent went and fought for the Taliban

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    The Daily Caller

    ✔@DailyCaller

    Kyrsten Sinema: ‘I Don’t Care’ If Americans Want To Join Taliban https://trib.al/uTk48L0

    2:43 PM - Oct 12, 2018

    7. Chummy with anarchists


    Said it was inappropriate to criticize anarchist property destruction. Also, she worked with a local anarchist group that helped organize a rally.

    Steve Milloy

    ✔@JunkScience

    Arizona Senate candidate supports destruction of property by anarchists. https://washex.am/2OT7AxY

    8:38 AM - Oct 14, 2018
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    Kyrsten Sinema in 2002: It'd be 'inappropriate' to condemn destruction of property by anarchists
    A decade before she took an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution, Rep. Krysten Sinema was palling around with anarchists. And while the Arizona Democrat certainly condemns violence now, as a...

    washingtonexaminer.com

    8. Promoted events at Arizona State University
    featuring the execrable Lynn Stewart, a lawyer convicted of aiding an Islamist terror organization and its leader

    John Ashbrook@JohnAshbrook
    FOX NEWS: Sinema "invited people in a now-closed Yahoo group to attend two events with Lynn Stewart... charged with helping her former client Omar Abdel Rahman... pass on secret messages to his followers to commit terror attacks." #AZSEN https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-dem-hopeful-kyrsten-sinema-promoted-events-featuring-convicted-terror-lawyer …

    7:01 AM - Oct 10, 2018
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    Senate Dem hopeful Kyrsten Sinema promoted events featuring convicted terror lawyer
    U.S. Democratic Senate hopeful Kyrsten Sinema promoted events at Arizona State University featuring a lawyer convicted for aiding an Islamist terror organization whose member was convicted for spreading messages for the Blind Sheik that issued the call that triggered the 9/11 attacks.


    9. Falsely claimed to be Latino (Allegedly)

    Legal Insurrection@LegInsurrection
    Does Kyrsten Sinema have an "Elizabeth Warren problem"? #AZsen https://shar.es/a1AI3w

    2:40 PM - Oct 13, 2018

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    Did Kyrsten Sinema falsely claim to be Latina? 2012 controversy resurfaces
    Daily Kos 2012: "Sinema lied to the National Association of Latino Elected Officials and said that she was Latina. In 2010 and 2011, Sinema went to NALEO conferences on scholarships that only Latinos...

    legalinsurrection.com

    10. Hosted a radio show on Air America Phoenix with a 9/11 truther

    ✔@KFILE
    · Oct 12, 2018

    Replying to @KFILE
    Later, after getting elected to the Arizona House, she went to host a radio show on Air America Phoenix in 2005/2006. Shortly after she left her co-host, audio shows her co-host was a prominent 9/11 truther. https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/politics/kfile-kyrsten-sinema-activist-past/index.html …

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    Kyrsten Sinema's anti-war activist past under scrutiny as she runs for Senate
    Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema's past ties to far-left groups are resurfacing as she campaigns to win Arizona's Senate race against her Republican opponent, Rep. Martha McSally. Sinema is running on...

    cnn.com

    11. Used to hang out with witches!

    Byron York

    ✔@ByronYork

    Perhaps Kyrsten Sinema could call in the Pagan Cluster to minister to the Meth Lab of Democracy. From @PhilipWegmann: 'Emails: Kyrsten Sinema summoned witches to her anti-war rally.' http://ow.ly/Nte330mf9Aw

    1:31 PM - Oct 15, 2018
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    Emails: Kyrsten Sinema summoned witches to her anti-war rally
    Politicians talk about "witch hunts" so often that the occult has almost become cliche in American politics. But in Arizona, there's at least one candidate on the ballot who takes sorcery very...

    washingtonexaminer.com
    https://pjmedia.com/trending/11-freakiest-things-about-arizona-senate-candidate-kyrsten-sinema/
     
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    Sinema is an America hating leftist. She needs to own it!
     
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    No kidding.

    She should've already died in The Chair and her family should have a GoFundMe page.
     
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    Dammit, where is Sheriff Joe in this batch of estrogen?? I was so looking forward to getting that kook in the Senate..

    Dreams die hard..

    On topic, I'll recycle a Trump golden oldie towards McSally..... Nasty Woman!!
     
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    She correctly accused her of saying “it’s OK to commit treason.” not OF committing treason although one could make the case that encouraging citizens to join the forces of our enemies to fight against us would constitute treason too. Would you agree?
     
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    I heard former US Attorney and the man who successfully prosecuted the first 9/11 bombers including the blind sheik for that attack Andrew McCarthy talk about this and his total outrage that this lawyer would be honored in any way shape or form.
     
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    OMG... I finally decided to read the OP instead of pushing Sheriff Joe into the conversation....

    McSally is saying that THIS Sinema response is Treason.... Are you F****** kidding me??

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    Sinema made the comments in an appearance on libertarian Ernest Hancock’s radio show on Valentine’s Day, 2003, a day before she helped organize an anti-war rally in Phoenix’s Patriot’s Square Park that condemned “terror” perpetrated by the American military in the Middle East.

    “As an individual, if I want to go fight in the Taliban army, I go over there and I’m fighting for the Taliban. I’m saying that’s a personal decision,” Hancock remarked during his show.

    “Fine,” Sinema said, “I don’t care if you want to do that, go ahead.”
    ENDSNIP

    Another reason to never vote for a ******bag Trumpublican.... like I need another one...

    Ridiculous.... I'm sure 99% of Trumpublicans are not educated enough to know what treason is.... like, say, working closely with a foreign power in order to secure an election in this country...
     
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    You might should go watch the video instead of calling people dumb but on second thought it's what you do. Avoid the truth, sandbag the discussion and turn it into insults to make you feel like your smart and right and not a typical partisan hack.
     
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    When the word treason is thrown around there are consequences involved in the use of it. Here is what you posted: "McSally attacks Sinema for 'treason' in contentious Arizona Senate debate"

    That's the headline you posted not me.

    If someone is accused of "Treason" that is a serious charge to make. The person is subject to arrest for Treason do you agree?
     
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    There is no video in this thread... what are you referring to? Video of the debate or video of Sinemas comments? Regardless, what did I misrepresent in my post? I know I have Sinema's quote from 2003 good (checked another source), so you are disagreeing with the OP that McSally brought the word treason up (in some fashion) referring to that quote??

    If you are going to shadow box with non-specifics, best of luck with that strategy....
     
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    The article mentioned the Kavanaugh effect. I keep looking for polls concerning Montana, Indiana, Missouri after the Kavanaugh confirmation by the senate. I want to see if those incumbent Democratic Senators in deep red states was hurt by their nay vote. Especially when most people in those states wanted Kavanaugh confirmed, wanted a AYE vote.

    So far, none. As for Arizona, it is a pure tossup.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/az/arizona_senate_mcsally_vs_sinema-6328.html
     
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    Kavanaugh was nominated on 7/9. Real Clear Politics No Toss up had the Senate at 51/49 GOP
    Today it's at 53/47, so, not much change.

    It's tough to tell why the seats that moved, moved.
     
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    The article was clear and I even pointed it out to you when you last asked, but no, we seldom arrest folks for teasonous conduct. But, we do note when our political adversaries are engaged in it.
     
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    And not only that, this vile POS
    Kyrsten Sinema Promoted a Terrorist Lawyer.

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    Kyrsten Sinema had promoted campus appearances by Lynne Stewart, a radical lawyer, while Stewart was being prosecuted for providing material support to terrorism.

    This article was written by Andrew McCarthy, the Chief Assistant US Attorney who put the Blind Sheik and his fellow terrorists behind bars after the first World Trade Center Bombing:

    Ms. Stewart, who died in 2017, was my main adversary in the 1995 terrorism prosecution of her client, Omar Abdel Rahman, better known as the “Blind Sheikh.” Abdel Rahman (who also died in 2017, just a few weeks before Stewart) was the jihadist whom Stewart was convicted of abetting; she helped him communicate with his murderous Egyptian terrorist organization from the American prison where he was serving a life sentence.​

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/kyrsten-sinema-promoted-a-terrorist-lawyer/
     
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    Nice way to talk about a veteran.
     
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    You have that right, and it goes even deeper.

    From Andrew McCarthy, the AUSA who put the blind sheik and his fellow World Trade Center terrorists behind bars.

    A leading light of the notoriously jihadist-friendly lawyer left, Sinema now portrays herself as a moderate progressive. To the contrary, her political activism began when she co-founded a “social justice” organization, Local to Global Justice, while studying law at Arizona State University. In that connection, Sinema urged people to attend two 2003 events at which Stewart was the featured speaker.

    At that time, Stewart was under federal indictment for providing material support to terrorism. She and two co-defendants, longtime Abdel Rahman aides Ahmed Abdel Sattar and Mohammed Yousry, were facilitating the Blind Sheikh’s communications with the Islamic Group (Gama’at al Islamia), the Egyptian terrorist organization the Blind Sheikh had helped found in the early 1980s, when it participated in the assassination of President Anwar al-Sadat.​

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/kyrsten-sinema-promoted-a-terrorist-lawyer/
     
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    :roflol:

    Thanks for keeping us informed of the latest Conspiratorial RW BS emanating from the Fever Swamp.

    Must be a slow day.

    Did you run out of 3-year-old threads to bump?

    Cool.

    Andrew McCarthy? :roflol:

    I liked him better in Less Than Zero.

    PS, and on topic, hopefully the AZ voters have enough sense to see through this BS.
     
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    Yes. Andrew McCarthy is a former Chief Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York and led the terrorism prosecution against the “Blind Sheikh” (Omar Abdel Rahman) and eleven other jihadists for conducting a war of urban terrorism against the United States that included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and a plot to bomb New York City landmarks. During his 20-year career as a prosecutor, he received numerous honors, including the Justice Department’s highest awards. Andy speaks and writes widely on law and national security, radical Islam, politics, and culture. He has testified before Congress as an expert on issues of constitutional law, counterterrorism, and law-enforcement.

    Have you prosecuted Terrorists and put them behind bars? Have you testified before Congress as an expert on issues of constitutional law, counterterrorism, and law-enforcement. I didn't think so, so listen and you'll learn something about the Democrat running for the US Senate in AZ against a Combat Veteran.

    Kyrsten Sinema Promoted a Terrorist Lawyer

    From the pen of Andrew McCarthy:

    By the time Stewart and her co-defendants committed the crimes alleged in the indictment, the Blind Sheikh had been convicted (in the case I prosecuted) of

    (a) orchestrating a terrorist war against the United States that included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and a subsequent (unsuccessful) plot to bomb New York City landmarks;
    (b) soliciting attacks on U.S. military installations; and
    (c) conspiring to murder — and soliciting the murder of — Egypt’s then-president, Hosni Mubarak.
    This crooked terrorist lawyer is helping this Terrorist communicate to Jihadists from his cell and this clown who is running for the AZ Senate is promoting her, while she is under indictment for these very crimes!

    Now catch this next part, it will go by fast:

    Sentenced to life imprisonment, the Blind Sheikh thereafter issued the fatwa (i.e., the Islamic-law edict) that al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden credited with authorizing the 9/11 attacks. Regarding the United States, Abdel Rahman had urged.

    Muslims everywhere to dismember their nation, tear them apart, ruin their economy, provoke their corporations, destroy their embassies, attack their interests, sink their ships, . . . shoot down their planes, [and] kill them on land, at sea, and in the air. Kill them wherever you find them.​

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/kyrsten-sinema-promoted-a-terrorist-lawyer/
     
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    So in other words you use it for political advantage?
     

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