I want to create a large private community that requires gun ownership for residency.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Texan, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    And up until september eleventh, no one had hijacked an airplane and diverted it into a skyscraper building. Yet it did occur, and must now be considered as being a future possibility, even if it is unlikely at best to occur again.
     
  2. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    It’s a free country.
     
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    Such areas exist in my county, the road in is clearly posted private. If you go down that road, you had better be invited or known. You will get run off at gun point, if need be.
     
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    My city had to release a million gallons of raw sewage into the Peace river during hurricane Irma, last year, it was either that or backflow in homes and businesses. It all ended up in the Gulf via Charlotte harbor. I bet my city was not the only one on the coast of SW Fl. I think that is why it's so bad this year.
     
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    Yes it is.
     
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    14 posts in, and already 'in-fighting' in a 'community' of heavily armed individuals, yeah that'll work...

    guess you could make it a 'commune' where everyone thinks the same, speaks the same and paints their domiciles the same color so as to prevent anyone from 'standing out'...
     
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    You're free to worry as much as you want:

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    Here's a nice, quiet, peaceful, safe, walled off community for you:

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  9. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    Does such a post constitute a threat being made to others?
     
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    What a ridiculous comment.
     
  11. Texan

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    Then buy some land on the coast. I won't. Nice place to visit.........
     
  12. Texan

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    No thanks. There are too many Chicago voters there.
     
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    I gave up on Oregon and Wash State.

    Commifornia was never in the question.

    And the East Coast and Gulf Coast get too many hurricanes.

    Oregon would be my ideal, with the abalone there, but I don't have any kin there and only enemies who live there.
     
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    Mighty David Koresh of you.
    Don’t get too far away from your nearest healthcare facility. Got your Obamacare paid up ? Someone will have a firearm accident.
    Everyone will be home schooled ? Internet services ?
    Sounds like education is not that important.
    Any women allowed ? Maybe think of a family planning center.
    How about your own garden, maybe a Subway if your not interested.
    This is beginning* to sound like socialism.
     
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  15. Texan

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    This community is like any other community. (hypothetically) They pay taxes. They have internet. The kids go to whatever school the parents want. The police and fire departments have access. People have property rights. They serve jury duty. They go to church wherever or if they want. You can call it a cult all you want, but you might want to read the twisted cultish description of what the "gun free city" is like according to the author in the other thread. This is just a rich person deciding who he wants to sell property to and be neighbors with based on their likelihood of being a criminal or someone who would be an easy target to attract criminals to the area. It's an oversized gated community with an emphasis on crime control, privacy, and living near like minded neighbors.
     
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    If this is all in one community, you’re going to have to live with people who don’t live their lives in fear. If you want good teachers for example, you’ll have to accept dedicated people who just done have the time or inclination to play with guns. Sorry, IMO, all well rounded communities are diverse in both phydical apoearance and interest. You’re also asking the impossible, police and fire and other people that can only arrive, leave and live at your convenience. You have a choice, either live a very simple life or live with diversity.
     
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    Services are minimal to keep taxes low. We aren't an island, our own country, or a cult. Property owners can come and go as they like. Most will have jobs to commute to. The kids are free to go to public schools, private schools, or home school. I have said nothing of physical appearance or race because that is not my concern. If the property owner can prove that he or she has passed background checks, mental health history checks, and passed the proficiency test to be able to carry a gun in public, he or she qualifies to buy property in the community. You keep trying to imply that I want a cult or that I'm racist or sexist, but you will never find a bit of evidence of this. (sounds familiar) I discriminate based on behavior, background check, and willingness to support freedom and independence from others.(especially outside the community)

    We would probably have to eventually become an actual city to avoid annexation, but services and expenses would be kept to a minimum. 2 square miles is 1280 acres. That is about 300-600 homes and would most likely be located within about 50 miles of a good size city and 20 miles from several other small towns and cities. The HOA may have to become the elected city government and we may have to build schools, eventually. The important thing is to fill the community and then let it go it's course. Because everybody supplies their own utilities, it should be a very "green" community. Lots of solar and wind power.
     
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    One going about their daily routine while legally armed is not an example of living in fear. Rather it is an example of someone exercising the willingness to be ready in the event of life going wrong, and finding themselves in a bad situation, rather than relying on someone else to handle the matter for them. It is not about fear, it is about being independent, rather than acting like a child in need of a parent.
     
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    In a gated community ? It’s borderline laughable in such a restricted area with fences and only two entrances. Even the military discourages everyone from having a gun on base, even though everyone is trained and not in a battle zone. Even though shootings have occurred, they have change only marginally.,All you’ll do is inadvertently shoot each other.,
     
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    Is it being stated that it is simply not possible for crime and violence to occur in such a community? Or is it being claimed that the statistical likelihood of such is simply not significant enough to warrant someone considering the possibility that real life might find them?

    Beyond that particular matter, eventually someone must leave the community for matters that cannot be addressed within.

    What relevance does military protocol, driven by politics rather than necessity, have to do with matters that are of a wholly civilian nature?
     
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    The probability of an accidental shooting far outweighs any one Needing a gun for defense.
     
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    CDC data on accidental shootings total about 22k for 2016. Even VPC admits there are more DGUs each year.
     
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    Cite the basis for such a statement, to demonstrate that such is indeed factually correct.
     
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    "JUST A MONTH AFTER THE shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary, President Obama called for an assessment of the existing research on gun violence and recommendations for more studies. Now, that assessment is out, and it delves deeply into what research shows us about why gun violence happens in this country – and also into how well the defensive use of guns work.
    Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats)."

    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
     

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