Science is not on the pro” choice” side

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Whaler17, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My entire post was correct. Other than entering text on a forum, you do nothing to help these precious little lives you have unsuccessfully tried to convince others you care about.

    If you will excuse me, I have to go claim I care about our veterans by insisting others pay more taxes.
     
  2. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which has already failed in a time without internet, home pregnancy tests, and abortion pills. What is your government solution for:

    Medical tourism
    Black market abortions
    Abortion pills
    The cost of imprisoning those too poor to afford any of the above
    Knowing who is pregnant
    Deaths due to infection for those who do not seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution
     
  3. Matthewthf

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    Do you agree or disagree that abortions is wrong and at what stage do you think it is ok to murder a baby?

    I understand what you are saying but I value the life of the child and I think if we try hard enough we can find a solution that works.
     
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    Abortion is great and anyone who murders a baby is currently arrested if caught
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What in your opinion makes abortion so great and why do you think it's ok to do it? I probably won't get a serious answer from you...
     
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    Let me be as serious as possible. It is a medical procedure that helps lots of women. It allows them choice over child bearing and in fact saves lives. I honestly think it is a wonderful thing....much like I think heart surgery is a wonderful thing if you need it
     
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  7. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Irrelevant. While I may believe it is wrong, it is not my uterus. You avoided my questions even after you posted " I don't think it's going to be all that hard."

    My unanswered issues:

    Medical tourism
    Black market abortions
    Abortion pills
    The cost of imprisoning those too poor to afford any of the above
    Knowing who is pregnant
    Deaths due to infection for those who do not seek medical treatment out of fear of prosecution
     
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    Ok, then what about sex tourism? The same logic process you're attempting to use here could also be used in favor of child prostitution.

    Seems to me if you're arguing for one, you should also be arguing for the other.
    (if you're to remain logically consistent)

    Why is one form of child abuse ok and not another?

    Yes, now that pro-choicers have pushed for Abortion pills to be available over the counter without a prescription, there's been several documented cases of boyfriends slipping an abortion pill into their pregnant girlfriends food without her knowing. Another cautionary tale of "be careful what you wish for".
     
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    The topic is NOT child abuse...….
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not from the pro-choice perspective...
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    What!? Abortion isn't "child abuse" from any intelligent perspective. There's no child and no abuse.

    Show PROOF that Pro-Choice advocates "child abuse"....or quit saying it.....saying it doesn't make it true, just off topic flamebait...
     
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    Doofenshmirtz was off topic when he brought up the issue of medical tourism.

    If we can recognize that's off topic, then hopefully we can go back to the original subject of this thread.
     
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    What!? Abortion isn't "child abuse" from any intelligent perspective. There's no child and no abuse.

    Show PROOF that Pro-Choice advocates "child abuse"....or quit saying it.....saying it doesn't make it true, just off topic flamebait...



    Ooops, you had to cherry pick again and not address my post again.....:)


    Show PROOF that Pro-Choice advocates "child abuse"....or quit saying it.....saying it doesn't make it true, just off topic flamebait...
     
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  14. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No reasonable person could logically connect abortion to child prostitution. If anything, it supports my position. No one should be forced to do anything against their will.

    Calling abortion murder or child abuse doesn't strengthen your argument.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Medical tourism is only one factor that makes anti-abortion laws obsolete. Its interesting that you would consider that off topic considering some of the examples you have used. Maybe I should have posted cute Panda Bear pics!!!

    erp
     
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    Then perhaps we should all have the right to walk into a tree shredder, correct? Same bullshit argument. Nobody has the right to do whatever they want.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, like abortion. This has to do with bodily autonomy.....we all have aright to our own bodies.


    Yup we should have the right to walk into a tree shredder...any laws against it?


    No, nobody has the right to do whatever they want but they have NO obligation to sustain someone else's life with their own body.

    NO one can force you to give them your heart or liver or any other body part to sustain their life.

    Women don't have to do that either.
     
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  18. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a law against walking into a tree shredder. You can get a ticket! Did you have an actual argument?
     
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    Why can't you admit that your OP link was nothing but FAKE "science"?

    As far as your FALLACY goes I don't get to make that decision and NEITHER do you!

    Each INDIVIDUAL women gets to make her OWN decision because it involves HER LIFE, her BODY and her FUTURE and that is WHY it is called her CHOICE!
     
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    Married women have abortions.

    That NEGATES the asinine "morality" position.
     
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    Disingenuous use of EMOTIVE terminology duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    WRONG!

    LARC's are safe sex!

    Using LARC's is the RESPONSIBLE choice!

    WHY are you OPPOSED to FUNDING the MOST EFFECTIVE means of PREVENTING abortions?
     
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    Married women who already have children have abortions!

    That negates the emotional blather above.
     
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    Because contraception is 100% effective?
     
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    False. Federal law and common sense say otherwise!
     

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