We'll finally see bipartisanship in DC!

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    One of the positives of Tuesday's election results is that Republicans and Democrats will unite in finally confronting an egregious national security breach that has yet to be adequately addressed.

    Specifically, the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel will now have the full cooperation of the House of Representatives and, in particular, the House Intelligence Committee, in exposing the vile machinations by Vlady Putin calculated to sabotage America's democratic process and befoul the US by helping Trump and hurting his opponent - a scandal confirmed by US intelligence services and the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, but not yet addressed in a concerted, conscientious manner as US interests clearly demand.
    As an added feature of the new bipartisan spirit, as previously noted, Americans have now appointed Democrats to subpoena documents like Trump's tax returns, and compel testimony about foreign investments in Trump properties.

    They can now assist Trump's fulfilling his repeated promise to release those returns, and provide virtual Trump® U-style seminars for aspiring wheeler-dealers in the form of case studies of the master's actual, secret techniques!
     
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    I truly hope this isn't the focus. Healthcare costs are way too high, the industry isn't transparent at all, and we have to do something about the quality. <<<That would be a better focus.

    Trump said his returns is going through an audit first. Even if he's full of it and it's a stall tactic, work in this country should still get done. This is why I didn't want the Democrats to win anything. They would just put on a theatrical play and all the things that ought to get focus would be put on the back burner just to get at Trump.
     
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    This is their plan, in full. I expect them to impeach him at least twice.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cuz...........you're really happy with the progress Repubs have made fixing healthcare while controlling Congress and the WH?
     
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    Yes I am matter of fact. Insurance prices jumped way up and at least the Republicans removed the mandate forcing people to pay for insurance. Obama should not have passed the ACA without addressing the cost of healthcare and the lack of transparency. He signed a bill that forced people into paying for already expensive healthcare.
     
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    He signed the only thing the Republican Congress would approve.
     
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    ACA was passed with w/ a Dem house and Dem senate.
     
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    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    Correct. My mistake.
     
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    No doubt a NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL will have no problem getting nominated and confirmed by the senate.

    Dems didn't get their "blue wave." :roflol:

    Steve
     
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    Hmm.. Whitewashing history isn't your forte. Too many of us understand the absence of consent from the HOR here, and the reconciliation process (hence the reason for Roberts correctly referring to this as a Tax) that the democratic Senate at the time pushed on us. (well, of course the O signed it) but had they not, I'm sure he'd simply have created an Executive Order instead....
     
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    So what the hell has Mueller been doing with all this time and all our $millions????


    It is not at all obvious that the House has any authority to subpoena Trum's tax returns.
     
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    Being thorough and discrete. Reportedly, his team is now compiling its report.
    Lyin' Don repeatedly promised to release them, anyway. If his tax records are needed to investigate possible Russian influence, Congress can exercise its subpoena power.
     
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    Dude, that's not going to happen because it would involve the legislative and the executive. Congress is required to produce a valid legislative purpose for subpoenas. It's a branch of government that is tasked with making law. Not deciding what law has been broken. That would fall upon the SCOTUS who is not some lefty handbag carrier for the democratic party.
     
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    @Nutty Bumbo
    Good to hear that government puts politics before things that really effect Americans everyday like health care, jobs, and the economy.
     
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    This kind of tabloid garbage really needs to be in the conspiracy theory forum.
     
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    Democrats when Republicans are in power: "We must have bipartisanship!"
    Democrats when Democrats are in power: "We won the election and elections have consequences."
     
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    To repeat, It is not at all obvious that the House has any authority to subpoena Trump's tax returns.
     
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    Kiss "Muhrussia" goodbye. It was a semi-effective hoax while it lasted... too long.

    If the Democrats spend the next two years touting Muhrussia and continuing other TDS insanity, they are facing a monstrous loss in 2020. Two more years of it will lead not to a "walkaway" movement, but a "sprintaway."
     
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  19. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    As pissy as hyper-partisan cultists of personality may be, the bipartisan commitment to protect America from the manipulation by hostile foreign forces is the expression of a patriotic mandate.

    The defense of the US electoral system must be conducted in a scrupulous, dedicated, thorough, and fair manner.

    Crackpots screaming that Trump should be locked up before any indictments have been issued, trials held, or sentences handed down is unAmerican, a feature of squalid sh!thole nations, not of the United State of America.
     
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    If they are needed to clarify Russia's interference to help Trump in the 2016 presidential election, they will be subpoenaed in the defense of the US and its democratic process. If he tries to hide what he had repeatedly promised to reveal, hijinks will ensue.
     
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    Smoke & mirrors, all of it.
     
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    Per the laws and rules, congress can subpoena personal tax returns (and a few other things) only as it applies to a valid legislative purpose, and legislative purpose means applicable to making legislation and passing laws. Personal dirt fishing expeditions doesn't cut it. Though they could, and probably would, come up with some way to break the laws and rules while making it look like a serious noble activity. Necessary to "clarify Russia's interference to help Trump in the 2016 presidential election" might possibly be loophole sufficient, though it would help -- after two years of heavy scouring -- if there was actually any evidence whatsoever of that. Subpoenaing information to help clarify something that doesn't exist is bogus.
     
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    The House Intelligence Committee is authorized to subpoena Trump's tax returns that he repeatedly promised to release if they are possible evidence of Russia's perverting the US election, and the Ways and Means Committee will likely insist that Trump stop hiding them as well.

    As Chairman Richard Neal noted, “I think we would all be comfortable if this was done on a voluntary basis. If they would resist the overture then I think you could probably see a long and grinding court case.” There would also be the pr consequences of Trump blatantly refusing to do what he promised the American public he would do.
     
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    Exactly what I predicted.
     
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    No matter how imaginary they may be.

    And Alex Jones types who fall for Russian conspiracies should post in The Conspiracy Theory forum.
     

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