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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Research the "Dicky Amendment".

    The GOP, under the direction of the NRA, effectively eliminated all funding to the CDC for firearms research.
     
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    A database and registry are the same thing so playing silly semantic games does not alter the FACTUAL REALITY of what the FF implemented.
     
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    What does gun research have to do with Disease Control? And why since 1996 have Democrats not reversed this? It seems rather bipartisan to me.
     
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    The epidemic of firearm related injuries and deaths is a legitimate concern given that it is the 3rd leading cause of injury related death nationwide.

    The Dems failed to reverse the Dicky Amendment because of fear of the NRA. Interestingly enough now that he has retired Representative Dicky himself has denounced the amendment that carries his own name for "going too far".

    There is a legitimate bipartisan reason to study the lethal impact that firearms are having on our society and using that data to come up with better regulations. We have dramatically improved vehicle safety through technology but the NRA obstinately OBSTRUCTS any attempt to do the same thing with firearms. That is irrational and illogical but no one has ever accused the NRA of being about logic and rationality.

    Instead it is all about fearmongering that drives up the sales of guns. Obstructing the CDC was all about the firearms industries blood soaked profits.
     
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    Again though, what does gun research have to do with DISEASE Control?

    The Dems FEAR the NRA? Surely you can't be serious. Why?

    He said, "It wasn't necessary that all research stop. It just couldn't be the collection of data so that they can advocate gun control. That's all we were talking about. But for some reason, it just stopped altogether." Do you know at what point it "stopped altogether?"

    I agree, but is the CDC the only entity that can do it?

    Why haven't other entities also been obstructed from gun research?
     
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    The CDC is the FEDERAL AGENCY that has the AUTHORITY to do this research and is held accountable for failing to deal with diseases. It was heavily criticized by the GOP when the Ebola crises occurred.

    The CDC investigates ALL causes of death into motor vehicles and accidents around the home like drowning in pools. Essentially they are charged with all matters pertaining to Public Health and firearm deaths and injuries are a public health matter.

    The NRA has conducted a long term campaign towards rewarding/intimidating members of Congress.
     
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    He was talking about the "REGISTRY [set up by the founding fathers] designed to make sure those who might answer the call up have sufficient arms" compared with the REGISTRATION of guns.
     
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    The Dems FEAR the NRA? Surely you can't be serious. Why?
     
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    This is what I originally responded to;

    The only reason the FF did not register firearms is because they did not have serial numbers. If they had they would have been included in the registration details.

    The REASON the FF set up that registry was to COMPLY with the TERMS of the 2nd Amendment as defined by "a WELL REGULATED militia...".

    There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents the creation of a firearms registry database.
     
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    How the hell can you say that they "WOULD have?"

    I can accept that, but you can't say that it CALLS for a national database.
     
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    Because the FF's included details like the actual amount of AMMUNITION that each gun owner had in their possession.
    The concept of a WELL REGULATED MILITIA calls for a national database.
     
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    Then they are not a part of the problem in need of being addressed. But regardless of such, physicians should not be engaged in abusing their authority by asking invasive, non-relevant questions of their patients.
     
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    Factually incorrect. No such efforts were ever attempted on the part of the founding fathers, and no such records exist to show otherwise.
     
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    Legitimate questions for any doctor to ask any patient;

    How much do you drink?
    Are you depressed?
    Do you think about suicide?
    Do you have access to firearms?

    There is NO "abusing of authority" by asking those RELEVANT questions!
     
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    Kneejerk denialism previously DEBUNKED and therefore IGNORED again!
     
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    Can such research successfully overturn the precedent set by Heller, McDonald, and most recently Caetano? Can it undo these rulings by the united state supreme court?

    Motor vehicle-related safety pertains to the operator behind the wheel to keep them alive. It has nothing to do with those who may be plowed into. Even the safest motor vehicle in existence can still kill anyone it runs over if the operator acts in a reckless manner.

    Firearms are already as safe as they can be made. Nothing will ever change the fact that they are deadly weapons, and can be used to kill someone else.
     
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    Then present the registry for review.
     
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    Been there and done that already!
     
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    Factually incorrect. The militia act details what equipment individuals should muster. The founding fathers were not engaged in the business of counting each lead ball, or weighing out every ounce of black powder that a person might own.

    Irrelevant nonsense.
     
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    Except for the fact that such has not been done, either on the part of yourself, or anyone else who supports this unfounded nonsense.
     
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    Kneejerk denialism of REALITY duly noted and asinine STRAWMAN drivel ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    Thank you for DISQUALIFYING yourself again on this topic as far as I am concerned.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    I can't walk you thru everything
     

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