Get over it! I personally never put your ancestors in chains. Stop judging me and assuming im a bad person because I'm white. You racist narrow minded bastard. I don't moan at and judge the italians because the Romans invaded my land and once enslaved my people. All this minority holding a grudge bullshit seeing the white man as the devil is pathetic. Get a grip, we are all the same you racist turd. Racism stops when you stop seeing me as a white man and I stop seeing you as a black man.
mmm romans stopped invading and enslaving and generally mistreating people 1700 yrs ago do you have a personal connection to your ancestors suffering?(mine as well but they also killed a lot of romans) my parents and older siblings do recall the terror of six years of Nazi occupation... the suffering of slavery is very recent and blacks today still suffer from discrimination and suppression...I'm white and fully understand their justified mistrust of whites. I go through my day with zero concern anyone is going to crap on me because of the colour of my skin...not so my my asian wife she still gets verbal abuse from whites for being oriental. what's that old cliche about walking in another mans shoes "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view…until you climb in his skin and walk around in it." To Kill a Mockingbird
So your saying a culture's struggles are discounted and no longer relevant over a certain period of time? Ie slavery after a certain amount of time the victim card has expired? What is this length of time? Also.... "I 'm white and fully understand their justified mistrust of whites" . Im white therefore on the basis of my skin colour I'm not to be trusted ? I think you will find you are a dirty selfloathing racist scumbag! It's like me justifying the abuse your oriental wife gets as ok because many oriental people are inherently rasict and rude people. It's not okey! Nobody should be grouped and tarred with the same brush because of skin colour, race or Whatever.
This is so, so true. However you do reap the benefits, I repeat, do reap the benefits of White Privilege created by our White ancestors who 1)not only put their ancestors in chains...but also 2)created and launched this current, racist, White Privilege society which you and I enjoy. Yes sir a White Privilege we enjoy, thanks only to, the eternal legacy of slavery which subjugates today's Black citizens ---although me and you personally never put their ancestors in chains! So as you walk around each day in America enjoying your White Privilege, show a lil' gratitude some times, and stop a Black citizen then thank them for being our 400-yr-old doormat.
I think you will find the black man put the black man in chains ans sold them to arabs that sold them to whites. So stop blaming whites. Blame other black men if you must hold a grudge against anyone. Also the first black slave owner in america was a black man. Whites and blacks were treated equal until this point. He fought for the right to own black slaves and won. The first black slave owner was a black man. So stop blaming whites, blacks are as much if not more so responsible for enslaving blacks.
Your remarks here are simply not based in, logic, when considering you are here blaming the Black slaves for the White slavemasters' decision to force them into 400yrs of USA chattel-slavery's bondage. Your foundation is flawed here. Because our White ancestors in Europe also had tribal wars where they sold our captured, White brethren into slavery. So stop being deceitful here/pretending Africans did something different by selling other Blacks who had been captured during tribal wars. No matter if Africans got sold by other Africans, it is still irrelevant. Because those African sellers did not make the choice nor the decision nor the evil deed of keeping Blacks in America, subjugated, with 400yrs in the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow laws which rape today's USA Black citizens. Only our White ancestors made the, choice, to end slavery then refuse to send negroid people back to their Homeland. Therefore we White Americans owe Blacks a colossal debt by which, karma, will always punish us for not repaying them what we owe.
If Africans did not sell other Africans for profit there would have been no slaves in America. It is very relevant. Stop putting the blame on white people where blacks played just as big a part in the slave trade and are just as guilty.
I don't owe black people anything nor will i feel a sense of guilt for their past. I was born long after slavery was abolished, always seen everyone of every race as equal you can **** off if you expect me to feel guilty for somthing that happened long before i was born, that i was never involved in. Honestly how dare you imply i have to feel guilty, treat black people any different than i would anyone else and should feel i owe them somthing or somthing should to given to them. Same goes for the blacks in America now they were born after all this happened in a time everything is fair. Why does anyone owe them anything or why should they be treated as victims?
Your foundation is flawed here. Because our White ancestors in Europe also had tribal wars where they sold our captured, White brethren into slavery. So stop being deceitful here/pretending Africans did something different by selling other Blacks who had been captured during tribal wars. No matter if Africans got sold by other Africans, it is still irrelevant. Because those African sellers did not make the choice nor the decision nor the evil deed of keeping Blacks in America, subjugated, with 400yrs in the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow laws which rape today's USA Black citizens. Only our White ancestors made the, choice, to end slavery then refuse to send negroid people back to their Homeland.
Wow your delusional if you think where the slaves came from and who was enslaving people and selling them is not relevant. By your logic a drug dealer is not relevant/to blame its the person that buys the drugs that is the criminal.
You are UBER-delusional, by trying to pretend African Bushmen did anything different than our White ancestors of, Europe, when Whites also had tribal wars and sold our captured Caucasoid brethren into slavery. Therefore it is not about who is the, seller, and it is all about the evil plans of the buyer.
No its not.... its like saying that of someone kidnapped a girl off the street, beat her, put her in chains and sold her as a sex slave wasent responsible. The person who bought her would be at fault and the person who enslaved her was not important? Just stupid and sickening not to hold both parties accountable. The people who enslaved blacks and the people who bought them are both horrible people. But to just hold the slave owners accountable is horribly disrespectful and insulting to all the slaves memories. I bet the slaves themselves hated the person who stole them from their home and sold them into slavery just as much as the person who bought them. What are you trying to argue that the people who envlaved them were ok because thet were black? Or whites inslaved whites so it was ok for blacks to enslave blacks? Its a disgusting view not hold the people who destroyed peoples lives by putting them into slavery accountable. Tbh its sickened me to my stomach that you dont think these people were bad and what they did is not worth remembering.
A black man was the first ever black slave owner im america. Blacks also owned black slaves. Black, whites, it doesn't matter who ever owned slaves were bad people..... Stop excusing the evil black slave owners and slavers. Im sure the people captured by them and owned by them would not agree with your excuses and arguments they were irrelevant. Its not like im defending what white people did, its discusting . But i believe EVERYONE involved in the slave trade is accountable. The whites and blacks involved in the slave trade are equally disgusting and for you to excuse the back slavers is just as disgusting to me. You should not excuse the people who captured black slaves them and put them into slavery, nor the black slave owners in america.
The Black tribes who sold Blacks to our White, racist, USA ancestors, have absolutely nothing to do with what goes on here in the USA. Only our USA society decided to use our White Privilege to disregard the Emanc Procl and 13thAmendment and CRA'64 and VRA'65 in order to continue to rape Black citizens of their freedom here in 2018. Nothing you say, can change this fact. So let's focus on repaying our debt to Black citizens.
What about the black slave owners in America? are they ok in your racist world? And yet again you side with the slave traders and let them off the hook. AND absolutely everything to do with the slaves USA. These monsters captured them, enslaved them and sold them, if they didn't there wouldnt be black slaves in america in the first place. Oh yeah lets forget about the guy who fought to legalize owning black slaves and won. He's black therefore hes not accountable?
that's like blaming child porn producers and excusing the pedos who buy the product...without the buyer there is no market for the product...
Im not excusing anyone... both are just as discusting as each other. Nobody is excused and thats what my argument is. Surely you place blame on both the child porn producer and the paedophiles who watch it don't you? Or would you argue like the guy above the child porn producer did nothing wrong and they person who watches it is the evil monster? My whole arguments is it dosen't matter what color the person involved in slavey they were evil regardless of race. I dont believe in excusing slavers or slave traders regardless of their color.
That opening rant reminded me of when Clint Eastwood yelled at an empty chair on stage. Thanks for the laugh buddy. P.S. Lots of good points Raff, but this guy is a common under-bridge dwelling troll.
there is some difference however, with the Africans slavery was part culture that always existed...whereas white slave owners came from european countries which had already ceased the slave trade, they knew better but continued on regardless...
When I see American blacks bitch about slavery, I want to ask them two questions. 1. Where would you be right now, if it was not for slavery. 2. Where would you rather be.
slavery still exists in the USA as well...sexual slavery and trafficking is no different...I'm sure we go to nearly every country and still find some sort of illegal slavery being practiced...
It does, but it is illegal and hidden. People are arrested when caught. The Islamic world has lots of legal slavery. I think it is legal slavery we are speaking of.
