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Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Do YOU know how many climate scientists there are around the world?

    The IPCC alone had thousands of contributors
     
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  2. Josephwalker

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    I sourced the OP and your argument is the source is wrong and or interpretation of it's data is wrong. Feel free to make your case.

    https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
     
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    Do you know who Maurice Strong is? Do you know what ground work was put in place in the UN and the IPCC by him and those he picked.

    Have you done the research, or just nodded in agreement with what is presented to you?

    Can you explain why so many scientists are concerned by the elimination of the Scientific Method when it comes to Climate change and research?

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2013/jul/30/climate-sceptics-scientific-method

    Can you explain why so little attention is paid to the influence of money on research and the resulting bias that always follows?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sc...e-science-has-become-blind-to-green-bias.html
     
    ocean515, Nov 25, 2018
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  4. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Supposedly, the hole in the ozone layer is healing. The math and scientific methods they used is faulty.

    Also, I've read that if we were all dead, and the earth was going to heal itself(who determines what is healthy?), it would take 1500 years.

    Yet, they can't even predict tomorrow's weather with much accuracy.
     
    Chester_Murphy, Nov 25, 2018
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not agree with you. The "big assumption" (as you call it) is in you or I assuming that we understand more about global warming than the experts. That we have heard both the global warming people and the nay-sayers and from that we are able to come to our conclusion. As far as I can see, there are a number of scientists and researchers who offer ample proof of a serious and deadly climate change in the making ..... fact! fact? And the debate is whether or not man is responsible. True? How about the theory that man can turn the tide to our favour of continued existence on this earth?

    From your post above, you seem to be saying that man can persist in making the atmosphere as filthy as we want and it won't change a thing. I just don't believe that one bit.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you ought to tell the American politicians and businessmen who claim the Climate Change is nothing more than a hoax fabricated in order to cripple Ameican domination on industry. Just reading your next paragraph indicates that you are fully aware of it > > > > >
    You admit it.
    "Indisputable"? That it affects industry, yes. That it is a made-up scare tactic to achieve that as its' goal, no.
    No difference whatsoever.
     
    Thingamabob, Nov 25, 2018
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    ballyhooed government report? Its an article by Aaron Brown. And who the hell is Aaron Brown?

    The hottest year on record is 2016. Second is 2015, Third is 2017.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest_years

    This story is so fake. lol
     
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    The "It's a Chinese hoax!" crackpots are now merely an insignificant, harmless curiosity of crank ideologues who are in a perpetual tizzy because science does not surrender to their dogma.

    It is not going to.

     
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  10. Josephwalker

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    Where did I say that? You are assuming that since I don't think C02 is pollution I am somehow pro pollution
     
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    I said this before and looks as if I need to say it again- man did not cause global warming but man's activities contributed to global warming. Those who suffer from Trumpism are either not capable of understanding such a simple concept or are not allowed to think for themselves.
     
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    Its from NASA data. If you think the data was misinterpreted feel free to give your analysis. I hope this guy is wrong because the data goes along with new predictions that we are entering another little ice age and I'm not at all rooting for that. My time left on this Earth is limited and I have been enjoying this life lived in one of Earth's brief warm eras between ice ages. The thought of my final years being played out in a new mini ice age is not comforting.
     
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    Question is how much. Very little? We are now driving the climate? Somewhere in-between but where exactly? That's the debate here.
     
    Josephwalker, Nov 25, 2018
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    How much do you think after a century of spewing **** into the atmosphere that doesn't belong there?
     
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    Which adds up to an extremely small percentage of C02 in the atmosphere put there by nature. Some would argue and inconsequential percentage.
     
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    Who are the some?
     
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    All of us skeptics you would label deniers. Judith Curry to me and all points between
     
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    Let's see your findings.
     
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    so please give us the percentages of each of those factors
    bet CO2 is low on that list and because man contributes less than 10% of atmospheric CO2 mans effect is almost nonexistent
     
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    2017 was the second hottest year on record.

    Global warming is not a linear process. The concern is the 100+ year trend.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Correlation as causation is really the only toe hold the warmers have and it always comes back to that doesn't it.
     
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    just a century? we have thousand year periods with massive volcano eruption spewing 100 times more CO2 and other green house gasses in a half a dozen eruptions then man has created in all of his existence
     
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    How did they change reversing the record global cooling ?

    Maybe we can learn something ?
     
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    I see you didn't do a search for solar system warming. Here's just one link of many.

    Entire solar system is heating up! Scientists blame solar warming
    http://www.space.news/2015-10-06-en...eating-up-scientists-blame-solar-warming.html
     
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