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46% Young Americans Believe USA Is Racist, 44% believe Obama greater than George Washington

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  1. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Oh, absolutely. We need them to be followers; we need them to react, not to think; we need them to be compliant laborers, not independent citizens.
     
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    I'm all about a color blind lifestyle. Everybody is different and all that matters is the content of your character. Do you deny democrats are getting over the top racist against white people?
     
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  3. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    And once again, someone is putting words in my mouth, misinterpreting my comments by insisting on putting me into one stereotype or another. I have not said America is racist, but that we have racial attitudes. It seems that you haven't thought about what it means to have racial attitudes. I have not singled out any one person and called that person racist. But I will say that racial attitudes are part of our culture.

    When people insist that White or European culture is better than others, that's a racial attitude. When people stereotype Blacks as being dangerous criminals, that's a racial attitude. When education uses race to determine admission, that's a racial attitude. How can anyone deny that these things don't exist? Why do we get so defensive when those racial attitudes are held up for scrutiny?
     
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  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Absolutely. Positively.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    culture isn't a race there is no white culture that you gain because you are white same with black culture
    an African Black gains and lives in a much different culture then an American Black
     
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  6. Adfundum

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    I agree--to a point. Race and culture are in most ways the same thing. The biggest difference would be the physical features. Being of a different race (aka a minority) separates a person from the main culture, so the simple fact that a person has dark skin and curly hair greatly affects who or what a person is.
     
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    I know democrats that are so racist They literally believe that cannot be racist because of their race. I wouldn't expect you to understand the logic or irony in that.
     
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    I was talking about the Bush video, but it is OK. They were teaching those kids to worship the President, not god. I believe both videos are disgusting. Humans should never worship anything be it a human being or an imaginary god.
     
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  9. Adfundum

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    Not sure what you're saying. I didn't say culture was race, however they are very closely related in some ways.
     
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    at first and for a very long time ones race and culture were the same because different races stuck together there for sharing and passing along the same culture
    but in modern times that is changing with more and more different races living together there for each experiencing and absorbing different culture's
     
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  11. Wild Horses

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    Sure you do.
     
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    I've seen a few posters, in this thread, claim skin color makes the person. And they are NOT D.
    I have no idea about your racist D's. You haven't named them.
    Having said that, there is only 1 race, the human race. But many ethnicities and cultures.
     
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    If you believe because you are different race you need programs like affirmative action to compete then you are a racist
    or that you believe that minorities cant get IDs to be able to vote then you are racist

    raw definition of racism is believing some races are inferior
    and when you feel the need to tilt the playing field in favor of one race so they are able to compete or get ahead you are saying that race is inferior
     
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    Very true. But the Japanese have been genetically isolated for centuries because they are devoutly "racial." That has to be clarified. The use of the word "racial" is problematic because they are Asian in the racial sense, but hate Koreans and Chinese, who are also Asian. However, the Japanese as a whole, dislike any and all "half-breeds" (hafu).
     
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    You telling me you've never heard Democrats claim they can't be racist because of there race?

    What would you tell someone that thinks that?

    Don't you people listen to NPR?

    You 2 not from America?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...l_white_people_when_to_shut_their_mouths.html

    Here is a typical racist Democrat. She says its here job to tell Jews when to shut their mouths. The fact you deny this is common makes me wonder...
     
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  16. Adfundum

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    I would tend to agree simply because I'm convinced that a lot of people who firmly believe they don't have racial beliefs actually take a condescending attitude towards racial minorities. However, we're also dealing with long-held stereotypes that prevent racial minorities from being able to compete equally within the larger culture.
     
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    ^ Example of racial attitudes in American culture ^
    I know, I know...I'm playing the race card, right?
     
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    How was the question phrased? Proud of its entire history, or just proud of certain roles we’ve played in history? I’d think no Anerican could be 100% proud of our history. If so, that would imply that person is proud of Civil Rights and proud of African slavery. There’s a lot of contradictory beliefs that have permeated American culture. No one can possibly claim to be proud of them all and also be sane. I think in this regard, we’re finally moving away from the old “We’re “1!” propaganda that had been unfortunately necessary during the Cold War. This is a good thing.

    That’s their opinion. I don’t agree with it, but it’s their right.

    That’s totally off, and probably comes from a lack of any real travel in their lives. Japan, for example, is far more racist than US, but it’s not a problem for the because they’re like 99% Japanese. That 1% of foreigners, however, are very quietly disrespected, and they have very little legal recourse within the system to protect them from civil rights abuses.

    That’s a weirdly worded statistic. Pretty much meaningless without any specific explanation.

    I don’t view it that way, personally, but I can see how easily someone who is trying to paint a negative image of the country might come to such a conclusion, if they cherry-pick our history.

    If they’re referring to their own lives, personally, than it’s probably true.
     
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    It's not really true, though. They're just sweeping generalizations about "America" and its history that are partially true and partially false. Obviously, racism played a part in US history, but so did a lot of other things. One cannot sum up America's complex history with one word. Also, one should never make the mistake of conflating the actions of government with society. They CAN be the same, but rarely are. In my opinion, the US government has never truly represented "the people", so it would be unfair to lay the blame for the US government's actions at the feet of the American people as a whole. Most Americans are decent, hardworking people. And our culture has produced many positive things.
     
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    Affirmative Action was put in place because people looked at other races and women as inferior. People of different races and women of all races with the same qualifications of white men were routinely passed over. I want to live in a world where my daughter can walk into a job interview knowing she has an equal shot. Are we at a point in this country where Affirmative Action isn't needed? I really hope so, but haven't seen any indication of that.
     
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    Let's go with that. . .
    Who defines what "most advanced, intelligent" means?
    How does race play a role?
     
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    You are mistaken

    They were putting God above bush
     
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    Let's not forget that even those American Blacks who fought in the World Wars came home to racism. They were used for a purpose, then put back in to society's racial categories.

    But the real flaw with the article's logic is that in an attempt to show Nazi's believed in diversity it ignores the plight of the Jews and all the racist rhetoric of the Nazi party.
     
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    Would it make you happy if instead of Dark Continent I have said Africa? Why would it make you happy?

    I know, I know... political correctness is what Liberalism is all about :hug:
     
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    Sort of...British culture is very different from French, which is very different from German, and so forth. Most other cultures have been able to blend unless the physical features were different.
     
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