Iran threatens to block straights of Hormuz - Again

By your humor can I assume your answer is yes? You do want the United States to go to war with China or Russia?

 

The answer is no.

I do not fear it as others may, and certainly am willing to spill their blood in order to protect those who are dear to us, and once the blood begins to flow, either Chinese or Russian, we will deal death to our enemies with with a high degree of enthusiasm and motivation.

ETA: It would look a lot like this one guy who deals pain to those who want it.

 

aggressive as they should be... and then you argue you're not a warmonger... oxymoron right there

 

omg no!!! someone posted in pink and said the P word

 

Indeed. Some people around here should not be taken seriously.

 

ok fair enough... I won't take you seriously anymore, after all you do post in pink

 

Being defensive is not being a warmonger, it is IN RESPONSE to the crimes committed by others.

The 1983 US marines' mission to lebanon was approved by the UN, and attacking an embassy is an act of war.

Bombing iran and destroying its regime would have been perfectly acceptable to any rational adult.

 

I am sure this Nazi thing was just some militarist's imagination.
And Imperial Japan was of no harm to anyone.
And Communism was just about equality and peace.
And Jihadist don't really mean it when they say they are going to kill us all.

 

I think the difference is mainly in how we value collateral damage, bombing is hardly accurate and even drones have a 10% plus civilian casualty rate... the complete disregard of civilian lives is what bothers me.

 

Do you think there is a need to overreact privately ?

 

It has been a long time since the US has fought a war against an enemy of any merit .. WW2.

 

The point is that we can privately warn them on the consequences of trying to close Gulf oil traffic.

 

Nazis + Bolsheviks + Communism = all financed by Republican Wall Street

Jihadists = called by Reagan as "the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers"

 

I think we have done that already. At the same time I do not think Iran will sit by and do nothing. In the event that Iran does make efforts to block the straits - which could be as simple as warning tankers not to pass through - how do we respond ?

 

If they actually use force to block the Strait, we should respond with the force necessary to keep the Strait open. If they present a credible threat that discourages commercial traffic, we should protect the tankers.

 

It is actually the US that is acting in violation of international law - AGAIN!

"Security council resolution 2231 underlines “promoting and facilitating the development of normal economic and trade contacts and cooperation with Iran” as an essential part of the JCPOA and calls upon all member states to support its implementation, including to ensure Iran’s access in areas of trade, technology, finance and energy, and refrain from actions that undermine it. As part of the JCPOA itself, the US alongside other JCPOA participants, undertook to refrain from any policy intended to directly and adversely affect the normalisation of trade and economic relations with Iran. The Trump administration is nonetheless now targeting countries across the world for actually re-engaging Iran economically in accordance with their obligations under security council resolution 2231."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/08/donald-trump-sanctions-iran-international-law

By unilaterally pulling out of the JCPOA the US is in violation of resolution 2231, a resolution it signed along with 7 other nations and is now reneging on.

The US as with it's illegal attack on Iraq simply does not care about international law in dealing with foreign nations.

The other 7 nations who signed the agreement are trying to keep the agreement alive despite the flagrant violation by the US which has imposed illegal sanctions on firms trading with Iran in order to cripple it's economy which is in essence a declaration of economic warfare.

Closing the narrow straits which Iran could easily do just by sinking naval assets to block is a desperate attempt at self-defense the rationale being that if it can't get it's oil to market then the Gulf states will not either.

 

The US senate never ratified the obama nuke deal with iran

Its just a meaningless scrap of paper

 

The folly and hubris of empires that overextend themselves and overestimate their power.

And yet in 17 years, with all your vaunted might, you have not been able to subdue that Taliban who are more powerful than ever, you have not been able to successfully manage the results of your illegal invasion of Iraq, you were not able to topple Assad with your proxies and it was the Russian air force and Iranian backed militias who were invited both to Syria and Iraq who pulled the heavy weight in defeating ISIS and other sunni terrorist groups such as al Nusra and al Qaeda.

 

The deal was actually an enforcement of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed and therefore existed under international law rather than US law. The UNSC then entered into negotiations with Iran under the NNPT along with 7 other nations.

Regardless of internal US politics, the US is in violation of resolution 2231 under INTERNATIONAL law.

 

However, there have been a couple of instances since then that illustrate the enemy's capacity for making war. Russia got clobbered by Chechnyan rebels when they used WWII tactics and tanks against them. Those same forces would have been immediately obliterated had they faced our forces at Fulda Gap.

We are better at killing with stand off weapons. We are better at killing with small arms. We are better at killing with our bare hands. I say this politely.

 

Nope. UNSC resolutions don't generate international law. UNSC resolutions are usually non-binding.

 

The only reason the taliban stills lives is because they run and hid behind children. They did the same thing to the Soviets way back when. Do you remember what the Soviet response was?

Whole villages flattened by helicopter gunships while the pilots laughed about it.

That's when the US gave the Afghans Stinger missiles to stop the helicopters.

Our empathy and compassion for the innocent civilians caught in the violence prevents the wholesale slaughter of entire populations.

This is an important distinction between Soviet/Russian and American ideology.

 

It sounds like Iran is suffering seriously from Global warming

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/...w-point-tehran-is-sinking-literally-1.6719960

But this is probably due to Israel's new demand on war with them and the Right of the US's inability to wait to shed more blood.

https://freebeacon.com/national-sec...l-war-identifying-iran-source-tunnels-israel/

For years Israel and her poodle the US have been threatening Iran with everything and I have read again and again that just Iran, never mind anyone else will be far more than the US people in their arrogance imagine if they want to take it on. Iran has been given so much warning, they are not stupid, if you move you will get a response. Shutting the gates of Hormuz will just be one of a well thought out response which she will make when the time is right..

 

lol

"International Law" that the majority of the United States didn't agree on and is not ratified is your sheild?

Good luck with that

Meanwhile, one nation is threatening violence to stop all trade while the other simply doesn't want to trade with one nation.

 

Thats nonsense

Nothing agreed to in the iran deal was binding on the US unless the senate ratified it

And they didnt approve it