Iran threatens to block straights of Hormuz - Again

They are selling it all to countries who don't care. This is about the Iran commenting about if the US blocks Iranian ships.

 

It's a tiny country. Blow up west jerusalem, Haifa and Tel Aviv and they are left with just a bunch of towns who are 250.000 or smaller. Of course Iran can do that. Hezbollah was able to rain 100 missiles a day on Israel for weeks. lol

 

Until Israel went and spanked their ass over their tunnels. Notice how Lebanon didn't do ****. Notice how Iran didn't do ****. Notice how Hezbollah themselves couldn't stop that.

Hezbollah is real good at attacking civilians. Hiding behind them too.

 

Really, then why is their economy in shambles? Why is their money becoming worthless?

 

Nope. Hezbollah kept on shooting 100 missiles a day.

 

Well like I said.....they are good at attacking civilians. Not real good at attacking real military forces.

 

It still is... they are selling to countries who do not care, and this is about Iran commenting about if the US blocks the Iranian ships.
And you can only distract away from this.

 

It still is Hezbollah was able to shoot 100 missiles a day at Israel. And Iran will be capable to do more than that. And they can destroy Israel. It only takes 3 places to reduce Israel to a bunch of towns of 250K or less.

 

I don't know about that ... at minimum they can do significant damage to Israel.

 

Just for correction - Hezbollah has never shot a "missile" at Israel. They shoot rockets - big difference.

 

Those other nations planning to leave NATO are...?

 

Not really. The main difference is rockets don't have inertial guidance systems, while missile typically do.

Note that the Russian FROG (Free-Rocket Over Ground) was nuclear capable, even though it was fin-stabilized and had no inertial guidance system.

 

I never said Iran would.

I simply said that you have a Geo-Political Strategy (which replaced the Pacific Rim Strategy you abandoned in the late 1960s) and that your strategy explicitly requires control of Iran, so that you have rail, highway and air access from the Persian Gulf/Arabian Sea/Indian Ocean Region so that you can gain control of Central Asia, which is necessary to smuggle weapons and supplies into the eastern Russian republics to foment revolution so that you can control that.

Presidents have control over Foreign Policy, but zero control over Geo-Strategy.

When the opportunity arises, you will initiate military conflict, and it won't matter if you elect George Clooney, Lady Gaga, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, Hillary, Warren, Sanders, Gore, Obama, Biden or the Pope.

 

Yes really - and an inertial guidance system and a sophisticated rocket and a massive payload is a huge difference.

The rockets being fired at Israel are little more than sexed up fireworks. A missile - such as missiles that could be provided by Iran - is a completely different beast.

 

Those protections are forfeit when the Vienna Convention is violated.

Um, why would the Shah do that, when he benefits from the actions?

You're not making any sense.

Wow, a whole 5 countries. The US undermined 96 countries, some of them repeatedly, by murdering their democratically elected heads-of-State and/or over-throwing their governments or invading them with military forces for heinous crimes like Declaring Neutrality While Non-White/Non-Christian or Nationalizing While Non-White/Non-Christian.

 

Iran’s history and culture go back to many centuries when people still thought the world was flat. Their culture is rich and their philosophers are wise. Iran is in a boxing match with the U.S. that has a powerful right hook (the bomb) but not a left jab worth a crap. Iran, in all of its wisdom, is staying clear of America’s right hook and sneaking in a quick jab of their own when the Americans make a miscalculation. So, all in all, it’s a contest of seeing who will be worn down first and so far Iran is winning.

 

You're a stalking horse for anti-democratic regimes like Russia and China?

Propaganda.

So your Russian pals can dominate Eastern Europe?

You don't have a clue how international business operates. The U.S. needs to get rid of Trump and lead the way on combatting climate change. It needs to get China and India more involved.

 

Yeah, their society is led by geniuses. ROFL.

An idiotic metaphor. The Shia religious nutballs running Iran are trying to assert themselves in the Middle East in opposition to the Sunni religious nutballs in other countries.

Iran is winning what? Its economy is in trouble.

 

Where do you get this stuff? America is a plutocracy controlled by large corporations who have no reason to pursue the strategy you outlined.

 

Says who, you? You are factually WRONG.

They are like the Geneva Conventions, you are not able to violate them even if the other side does. <Rule 3>

You claim they were using the embassy as a spy center which EVERY member of the soviet bloc were doing until 1989; perhaps the world should have attacked and slaughtered all of their diplomats according your "logic". Amazing how you far leftists don't condemn the russians, whose army was occupying TWENTY-ONE countries.

I should also add that the US, according to all those who defend iran and russia participation in assad's mass slaughter/genocide as being "invited" by the "duly elected leader of syria, was perfectly legit in operating in iran under the shah - who was the "legitimate leader of iran" at the time.

See how that works?

1) many of those countries were not democracies and had murderous dictators.

<Rule 3>

2) The US is not occupying nations mass murdering their citizens like iran; removing a criminal regime is not the same as genocide, which iran is committing. And again, I find it hilarious you excuse away and defned iran doing TEN TIME WORSE what you condemn the US for.

 

Sonny, iran could not block its own bathroom toilets, if the US navy decided to take action. I will be laughing in the face of those like you when the regime falls, and it will soon.

 

1) Israel has AMD that are effective
2) Israel has nuclear weapons that would end all life in iran in a matter of minutes
3) advocating for mass murder is a violation of this forum's TOS
4) <Rule 3>

 

which is why Iran will have its nukes very very soon if they do not have them already. They need them for self defence.

 

You don't have to sink it to destroy it. You just have to take out the superstructure. No radar and fire director and turrets and it's a big floating hulk.

 

Have you ever seen the inners of an Iowa class BB superstructure ?

It's built like an armor bank vault.




Before the 1970's warships were built to take hits and stay afloat and keep on fighting.

What usually happened, warships weren't sunk but "missioned killed" unable to continuing to fight and limping or being towed back to a shipyard being repaired and going back to sea fighting again.

Most of the battleships sunk on Dec 7th, 1941 at Pearl Harbor were raised and repaired and went on fighting during WW ll.

FYI:
The U.S. Navy has pretty much perfected battle damage control procedures while most other navies have not.


Armored citadel (17" thick), USS Iowa (BB-61) bridge
"Armoured"




Larger warships typically had a heavily armored bridge. Iowa's 17-inch thick conning tower is the most secure spot from which the command crew could direct the battle. To preserve its integrity, only narrow slits afforded a limited view). But even U.S. Navy battleship captains and admirals preferred to use the unarmoured bridge positions during combat (surrounding this structure). On Iowa-class battleships, the conning tower is a vertical armor-plated cylinder located in the middle of the bridge, climbing from deck 3 all the way up to the flying bridge on the O5 level.