Ancient Stone Works/Megaliths

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    If, in fact, something does get proven, it will open the floodgates back to the beginning of recorded history.
    Origin's of religions, and cultures, that have this included in their lore.
    megaliths where the folklore speaks of extraterrestrial construction.

    all of the thousands of links to a common event, that simply cannot be proven right now.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    The link you requested is:

    I hope you find it interesting. :)
     
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    Your post is non-responsive.

    Your lack of knowledge on the subject matter is more than apparent.

    There is an uninhabited island in the Pacific known as Malden Island. It's original name is unknown.

    It is not part of an island chain, rather it is a stand-alone volcanic sea mount. The nearest inhabited island is about 240 nautical miles away.

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    Someone of Polynesian, Micronesian or Melanesian origin discovered the island, and for whatever reason deemed it to be special.

    We know this, because someone saw fit to build granite temples and other edifices on the island.

    There is no granite on volcanic islands. The nearest source of granite is 3,000 miles away.

    So, someone saw fit to sail 3,000 miles to a source of granite, hew granite stones weighing 2 tons to 10 tons, put them in their small boats and sail back to Malden Island where they finished cutting the granite stones to erect temples and buildings, then used basalt to build roads connecting the temples and buildings.

    When Western Europeans discovered the Polynesian, Micronesian and Melanesian peoples living on volcanic island chains in the South Pacific, those people were living in the Stone Age. The intelligent person, of course, wonders how people living on volcanic islands acquired the ability to cut and dress granite, especially since none of them have granite anything, except for one place.

    There are ruins at Ponape. Granite buildings. A lot of them. Enough to house about 100,000 or more people, which is really bizarre since none of the islands had populations even remotely approaching that number when they were discovered in the 1600s and 1700s.

    Did I mention that those granite buildings are either submerged or partially submerged?

    Well, now you know.

    People don't normally build structures underwater, so the only possible conclusion that one could logically draw is that this city was built at a time when sea levels were much, much lower than present.

    And, when were sea levels lower?

    Well, there you go.

    People were building large megalithic structures before the end of the last Glacial Period, and in the South Pacific of all places.

    Unfortunately, people rely on the Hebrew mytho-history as provided in Genesis. That wouldn't be so bad in and of itself, except that they also rely on the King Joke Vision of the text as the source.

    The word used in Genesis is not of Hebrew origin. It is a Sumerian/Akkadian loan-word and the correct translation is "deluge" and not "flood". That much is obvious given that the Sumerians and Akkadians used a totally different word when they meant "flood." If the Sumerians and Akkadians had meant to say "flood" they would have used that specific word, instead of the word that means "deluge."

    So, it was a deluge, not a flood, and they do mean different things.

    If you study the various myths, and there are more than 400 such myths, there's one thing that is peculiarly noticeable.

    Tribal groups in the eastern Siberian Arctic, the US/Canadian Arctic and along the Pacific Northwest of the US relate that a "green star", "green arrow", "flaming star", "flaming arrow" and other similar descriptions appeared prior to the deluge.

    That is neither illogical nor inconsistent, because if a small asteroid or comet entered Earth's atmosphere on a low-trajectory over the North Polar Region heading in a south-easterly direction toward the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet, then it would be wholly and completely logical and consistent.

    There is evidence of a celestial body impacting Earth at about that time. There are small clusters of impact sites in the US, suggesting the celestial body broke apart, which they often do, hurling pieces everywhere. There's also evidence of wild-fire conflagrations across the US, which may have been triggered by impact debris.

    If the celestial body impacted on or near the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS), it would have destroyed a great bit of it, and we know WAIS underwent substantial melting at about that time. The impact would have also generated a tsunami that would have swept across the Pacific and Indian Oceans, and excepting the Hebrew account of the myths, the event lasted only 3-5 days before subsiding, which is consistent with a tsunami event.

    That sea levels were higher is also an established fact. Some Sumerian cities were sea-ports, complete with docks, wharves and warehouses for goods found during archaeological excavations, yet there's no sea nearby now. Sea levels lowered over time, so that when the Akkadians started building their cities south of Sumer, they were still on the coast of the Persian Gulf, although they are not now.

    Now, the Basra Region is just salt-water marshes, with a really mucky muck that got all over my Bradley CFV and boots when I was there, but it's evidence that at one time the sea level covered the region.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
    breakout the tinfoil hats!!!!!!
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    Mircea made an excellent post,

    Wyly, you look nice in your new hat.
     
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    Thank you for a VERY interesting post. :) I've never heard of Malden Island before, but I'll certainly do some research on it now. Your questions are precisely the ones professional archaeologists should be asking. I am startled to see them offered such a marvelous opportunity to open a whole new & unknown chapter on human history, yet consciously choose to ignore it. Underwater archaeology is a new but extremely promising archaeological specialty. Professional archaeologists should embrace it whole-heartedly & with open minds. I predict it will change everything we now know about our own distant past. It would be as exciting to be part of that process as it must have been for Galileo and the other early astronomers to have use of the newly developed telescope; or for geologists during the 1960's-1980's, with the development of the new Tectonic theories that gave us our first global understanding of geologic processes & change. The key to understanding & confirming Continental Drift (theories from the early 1900's) was found on the floors of the oceans. The new equivalent understanding of human history will come from results of new research into underwater archaeology in places that were dry land during the last Ice Age. I am personally excited for the anticipated results.
     
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    Unfortunately...EVERYTHING he stated is Ancient Aliens garbage.
    https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places/malden-island-0010676
     
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    I read the article you cited, and found no mention of the temples being made from granite rock whose nearest source would be 3,000 miles away. Since that's a key point in Mircea's post, this article doesn't really address that point, or in any way dismiss it. The key question in Mircea's post is, HOW did the builders of those temples manage to construct it using rock not found naturally on the island, and whose nearest source would be 3,000 miles away? The only people we know of who live in the Pacific Island region are rather primitive, tribal people. Would they have the technological means of finding, transporting, carving & using that granite for constructions like those found? Whether you believe in "Ancient Aliens" or not, the evidence needs to be studied and answers to these challenging questions found. Dismissing the evidence because you don't like the possible answers, is NOT a viable choice. If Mircea's post is accurate, and the temples were constructed from granite rock found 3,000 miles away, then how do YOU explain that? I'm not saying extraterrestrial aliens are responsible, or involved. There's growing evidence around the world that an advanced civilization may have existed during the last Ice Age. That evidence doesn't preclude it being human or extraterrestrial. As scientists, archaeologists & historians, we must follow that evidence wherever it leads, and accept the conclusions it leads to, whatever they are, and irregardless of our personal prejudices or preferences.
     
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    My point being that none of what he stated is truth....thus the "Ancient Aliens" comment.
     
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    So you determined everything spoken of in "ancient aliens" is a lie.

    I have a hard time with that.
    I haven't watched to many of them, but some speak of factual data here on earth.

    "Aliens" may be a leap of faith, but there was a superior technology here, that is a fact.
    The physical proof is all over the planet.
     
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    Nope...that would be YOUR determination of my commentary and inaccurate.
     
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    As previously stated, I enjoyed this post. However, I've spent some time on Google looking at everything available on Malden Island and its prehistoric ruins, but have found nothing that indicates those ruins are constructed from granite rock. If your post is accurate, it's a remarkable piece of evidence supporting an unknown Ice Age civilization that spanned the globe. But that granite is key to that evidence & Google doesn't mention it. Could you please tell me (or the forum readers) where you found out the prehistoric structures were built from granite? Thanks in advance. :)
     
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    google's dragonfly project is all about censoring search results, don't be surprised that it's been 'tested' in the usa...
     
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    here's a related video...
     
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    Thank you for that interesting thought. With so many conservatives on this forum making accusations about the government taking away our freedoms, while singing the praises of capitalism, your post is an excellent example of how a capitalist enterprise can abuse its power and restrict your freedom, in the pursuit of its profits.
     
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    All of this has been done before, what he does not address is the platform he is working on, and how they get the Megoliths on and off the boat, and how they slide on the ground. How do you cut the stone in perfect cuts.
     
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    he's someone who has never been there all his info came from some loony tunes website...there is no mention of granite from any legitimate source, everything constructed from local materials, no megaliths...archeologists have determined it's nothing extraordinary prehistorical Polynesian settlements, similar constructions on other islands ...just another example of "why conclude the obvious when the fantastic is so much better"(it must be aliens)

    eew look at the :roll: megaliths of malden island
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    The Hindu have volumes written about this.
    From their machines, their weapons, their flying machines.
    And a nuclear war.
    Written 4000 to 6000 years ago.
    The originals still exist, in cuneiform sanscrit, still used today.
     
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    Heard and investigated this theory.. and some ruins seem to provide evidence.. however, what is missing are metal artifacts that could be tied to the period.
     
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    After 10,000 years a Sherman tank is a pile of iron oxide.
    All over the world, all that is left is stone.

    The most interesting is the written works.

    They either had some great sci-fi writers for the stone age book clubs,
    Or these people witnessed something.
     
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    zero proof, zero facts...you get your info from loony web sites,
     
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    There would still be a lump of something that couldn't be attributed to natural forces.
     
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    Actually we have proof all over the planet.
    Are you on some loony website.

    The only people who can attempt to ague this, is someone with no concept of how machines work.
    They will tell you the illiterate natives banged rocks together.


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    :roflol:yeah because banging rocks together requires literacy Phd or alien technology

    I present to you illiterate rock banging technologies...and all the stone tools have been found on site of construction...yeah they were stone hammers
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    just maybe stop visiting alien/loony sites written by unqualified loons and maybe pay visit a visit legitimate archeological website...
     

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