TRUMP SHARES OLD VIDEOS OF SCHUMER, HILLARY, OBAMA SUPPORTING BORDER SECURITY

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disagree. Trump was elected largely to build the wall.

    That and SCOTUS.
     
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    Translation: Walls are effective at stopping illegal democrat voters.
     
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    They lost.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    project much?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    again, nonsense. But I get how it has to be binary. Dems bad and we's good at border security. Never mind what the experts say. Never mind what the evidence says. Never mind what billions already invested and the positive ongoing programs and projects the predate trump.

    Nah, evidence based discussions are an anathema to trumpettes. Best stick with the bumperstickers and project.
     
  6. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Talking to yourself? Point out a single racist thing I have ever said or shut your liehole. Liberals like you that haphazardly call people wayciss, they don't even know with no proof, are a huge part of the problem with the racial divide, in America today.

    Obama set race relations back, decades.
     
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  7. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The truth is binary.

    You can see why dems are worried.
     
  8. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FatBack you speak the truth.
     
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    See the post you just quoted, I just edited it, to expound a bit more.
     
  10. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I smell what you are cooking.

     
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    Yes he did on account of he was black and the radical racist right wing fascist fringe and the white nationalists went apeshit. Or did you miss their emergence from the cesspool?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Truth is not binary. Truth in unitary.

    As for being worried, seems lyin' cheatin' crooked donnie is a lot more worried than the dems.

    His crooked ways are under siege on virtually all fronts by the legal authorities of his very own administration while his shield of lies continually "phase shifts" as the facts dribble out and the guilty/sentencing locutions add up.

    there are currently multiple criminal investigations into the trump campaign, the trump inaugural, the trump transition, the trump foundation and trump inc. Seems once a crook, always a crook and the proverbial Rhode Island Reds are coming home to roost.
     
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    Non answer BS. Tuck the card back in, it's dog eared and tired, I noticed you failed to back up your accusation I was projecting MY racism, that you implied. Wonder why? You don't even know me from Adam and Eve and I have never said anything remotely racist here. If you had any class or integrity, you would rescind and apologize.
     
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    The President is asking for less than 15% of the federal budget for the wall/border. I think it's a fair ask.
     
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    Open borders again? By open borders you mean cages and tear gas?
     
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    The Budget Components and Impact on the US Economy. In Fiscal Year 2019, the federal budget will be $4.407 Trillion

    15% of $4.407 Trillion is roughly $660 Billion.

    You are correct.

    Trump is asking for less that $660 Billion.
     
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    15% of the federal budget for the wall/border? Yikes!

    Tell you what! How about we have Super-Patriots from the big-winners from top 1% of Trump's tax package give up a little of their billionaires gains and pay for it!

    All those great benefits the Republicans are claiming will handle the costs easy-peasy!

    Hey, here is a SUPER-Bonus! Simply have these Super-Patriots guarentee whatever part of the Border Wall that Mexico doesn't pay for - if Trump is right the billionaires and their companies won't be out a penney and will reap billions of profits! Trillions of profits!

    They will be tired of Winning!
     
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    Or we can point to the ever-growing pensions/medicare costs skyrocketing through the roof. At least infrastructure costs are relatively stable, once we make this investment we won't have to for a while.
     
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    It's almost as if.. they don't support open borders... strange
     
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    So Trump is showing people that Democrats do in fact support boarder security. They just don't agree that an expensive wall is an effective solution for this problem. What a political genius.
     
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    Democrats support democrat security.
     
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    Have the Democrats penned a proposal for national security purposes? The Democrats can't have their cake and eat it too. To claim they're for national security, but not put the meat and bones on it.

    Disagree with the border wall? Fine, Trump's shown that he's quite flexible when given something to actually work with. Of course, that would mean to stop resisting for a moment. Let Mueller be the head of the resistance, congress must be the head of government.
     
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    They have proposed a $1.6 billion increase in border security, which is enough to double the number of border patrol agents we currently have, however the Trump administration is currently insisting on a much more expensive border wall at the Mexican border. They cite drug trafficking as being one of the reasons for why the wall is needed, despite the fact that less than 10% of all drugs smuggled into the US comes across the border by land. They cite terrorist activity for being another reason for why the wall is needed, despite the fact that we have a greater history in suspected terrorists crossing over the Canadian border than the Mexican border.

    The reasoning for how the much more expensive infrastructure project would be more effective remains unclear.
     
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    I'd argue that increasing the budget to put more boots on the ground, isn't as effective as the border wall. We saw what happened with the caravan. If we made it physically impossible to enter illegally, children won't be dying in detention centers. I'd hate if the 60 million judgment were given, but if it is handed out then the investment in the border wall is probably a worthwhile investment.

    If the drug trafficking is low, we know the sex/human trafficking is a huge epidemic. That one's not a Trump propaganda line, that's sadly what they're trying to do across our borders. Then there's MS-13's general presence within the United States.

    If instead of a wall, you fund a barbed fence with electric wiring, I'll be for that as well. The point is, we can't tolerate this any longer. More radically, a revision to the 14th would eliminate any need for any walls. But I'm not sure if America is ready to modernize its laws with regards to citizenship(though I am.)
     
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    Yet again, we see the deliberate blurring between asylum seekers and illegals. I fully support every effort that the USA makes to stop illegals...but NOT at the price of ignoring obligations to process asylum seekers as per that UN Convention.

    The other comment I make on Donald's video in the OP is this........Donald said Mexico would pay for the Wall...even the extra 10 feet in height he would add on top, after the Mex Pres said that very naughty word...far king.
     

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