EURASIAHEADLINE NEWS BREAKING: UKRAINE BEGINS SHELLING NEAR MARIUPOL

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Poroshenko's ratings are very low, and he was told by the 'Rada' that in order to win the election, he needs to go to war. So as predicted, Ukrainian troops have opened fire near Mariupol. Taking the area below Donetsk would put his troops at the Russian border, which would account as to why the American, Polish and Baltic troops are there helping them out.

    The separatists also warned about a false flag chemical attack in Mariupol by the Kiev forces so as to blame them, and to draw in other nations.

    In the meantime the separatists haven't been idle. The Donetsk and Lugansk Republics have announced that they are in full combat readiness.

    And if this wasn't enough war fever, Kosovo just announced it will form an army and Russia is furious about it. Serbia said that in response, Belgrade could send armed forces and declare Kosovo an occupied territory - which it is. The American flags are waving proudly on Kosovo's poppy fields. Anyway Belgrade is bringing the situation up at the UN.


    As heightened tensions mark an already dangerous situation, Ukrainian troops have just opened mortar fire near Mariupol.

    This was just announced by the DPR representative in the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Regime. 120mm and 82mm mortar shells were reportedly used.

    AGS, RPGs and large-caliber machine guns were also used during the shelling.

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/12/b...=wp&utm_campaign=push&utm_content=new-article

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/12/m...=wp&utm_campaign=push&utm_content=new-article
     
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    US military presence is in Ukraine to make sure Russia doesn't do anything stupid like attack Ukraine lest they want to start a war with the US which we know Russia does not.
     
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    Why don't you stop and think about it for a moment, the US is waging a war on Russia's doorstep. I think the "start war" part is over, we now officially have a war instigated by America.

    Let's flip the situation and put Russian troops on the Mexico border and consider America's response, America would bomb the entire area.

    Europe should be very concerned...and Ukraine... Ukraine is finished
     
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    Poroshenko is either taking orders from Washington to the detriment of his country, or he is insane because his actions are totally evil. The Ukrainian Parliament the 'Rada' told him that the only way he can be elected is if he goes to war - against his own people of course.

    It's an example of the hatred the Western part of the country has against the Russian speaking Eastern and Southern part. If it was otherwise, Nuland wouldn't have helped them with the coup and put them in charge..

    They say that any Ukrainian conscript that doesn't want to kill his own people is shot immediately. Russia did say that it won't allow any genocide of the Russian population and they are smart - so I hope they can kill the Nazis behind the troops, and whose job is to shoot deserters, without killing the innocent conscripts at the front.
     
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    Very sad... Ukraine is but a pawn between Washington and Moscow, to cut through all the propaganda one merely has to ask;
    1. Who has the most to gain - America
    2. Who is waging war on whose doorstep - America on Russia's
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    is this related:confuse: video time 4:25 this is important to the people i see
     
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  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The video is totally off. First of all the Orthodox Church does not have a Pope, and is united through the mysteries of the Church. Patriarch Bartolomew in Constantinople does not have the power to reinstate the two Ukrainian bishops since they were excommunicated by the Patriarch of Moscow.

    Not a single Orthodox Patriarch in the world supports Bartolomew in re-instating the heretical bishops - or in his quest to form a Ukrainian Church free from Moscow. Unless Bartolomew calls a conference of bishops from all over the world to make the decision, there will be a schism within the world wide Orthodox Church.

    Bartolomew didn't do it though on his own initiative. He was pressured by Washington, and yesterday the heretical Patriarch Filaret of Ukraine who had met with Biden 2 months ago, awarded the Saint Andrew Church medal to a former American CIA member in gratitude for his help.

    As for the Ukrainians being happy about it, which Ukrainians is the announcer talking about? Certainly not the members of the canonical Ukrainian Church under the Moscow Patriarch - and it's the largest Church body in Ukraine. They, unlike the heretical Orthodox Churches are not nationalists, since it's considered a sin in the Orthodox Church.

    The Nazis have now started confiscating the Churches and monasteries, and it's probably the reason Poroshenko declared Marshall law in the Russian affiliated areas of the country.
     
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    Remembering how often the US 'backs the wrong horse' in these skirmishes, they'll probably end up supporting Russia instead of Ukraine? :roflol:
     
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    It's pretty obvious Russia wants Ukraine back and if not for US military presence Russia would have already invaded Ukraine. Of course Russia doesn't want the US to be allied with Ukraine.
     
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    Russia is upset they lost the cold war and all of it's slave countries. Putin thinks he can rebuild the Soviet Union. As long as the US is involved that won't happen. Europe cannot be counted on to prevent Russia from it's agenda. And what puppet would Russia like in Ukraine?
     
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    I don't think that Trump has any interest in challenging Putin who he considers to be a friend. What to do? Perhaps Trump wants to protect his business interests and a military operation might just sink that ship.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey brilliant one wake up! The one world order of the Soviet Union moved from Russia a long time ago. It is now here with all its propaganda, atheism, liberalism, control of the media, gulags, indifference to human lives, etc., and its being advocated by such as Soros and the rest of his Washington ilk. Soros supports over 150 liberal organizations that forwards his cause and that of the other Washington ideologues.

    Unlike Moscow though, we don't have government control of the economy. What we have is corporate control, so whoever owns the corporations owns our government and you.
     
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    Trucker here's something in reference to the heretical bishops that had been re-instated by Patriarch Bartolomew under pressure from Washington.

    This was announced by the archpriest of the UOC Alexander Bach.

    “Remember, I said that the bishops of the UOC (Church under Moscow) will be delivered to the cathedral with a “ guard”? So, today, Metropolitan Mogilev-Podolsky and Shargorodsky Agapit are being brought forcibly to Kiev by the SBU (Ukraine Secret Service) of the Vinnytsia region.

    Vladyka (the bishop) was taken from the house where he stayed in the Chernivtsi region. The official reason is for a conversation with the president!
    Gulag anyone? This is reminiscent of the Soviet Union where up to 80 thousand priests died in Russia for not accepting the heretical Orthodox Church - and its being done because of pressure exerted on Patriarch Bartolomew by Washington. This is why the heretical bishop Filaret gave a Church award to a former CIA agent.

     
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    I heard Russia, and its church want to make Putin a Czar.
     
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    No I think what is pretty obvious is that Russia doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO because NATO's sole existence is to serve as aggressor towards Russia. America knows this, they are using it as bait to create tension.

    America is not there to save the world, go save Yemen, they are there to stir the pot, if they can portray Russia as the aggressor, they can sanction Russia and remove their biggest competitor from the European gas market.
     
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    As told by a pro-Russia website with 100,000 readers.
     
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    Sorry but you heard wrong. It's Patriarch Bartolomew of Constantinople that wants to make himself a Pope, or at least that's what the other Orthodox Patriarchs believe. He superseded his authority with Ukraine and it's causing a Church schism. The first one mind you in a thousand years. The last one was with the Church of Rome over the primacy of the Pope.

    The problem is that the Patriarch doesn't seem to know what's going on in Ukraine and Washington, and believes that Moscow is propagating against him. He's located in Turkey a Muslim nation since it is the ancient seat of the Patriarchate, and he has to pay dearly for it. His money cache is the NY Archdiocese, and because of this he's dependent on some very questionable clergy that can be pressured easily by the US government.

    Proof of Washington's involvement in Church matters, is the awarding of the Church's Saint Andrew Medal to a former CIA agent by the heretical Patriarch Filaret in Ukraine. It wasn't given to the agent for nothing.
     
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    Washington knows that Russia contains 30% of the world's natural resources, and without them the world cannot survive. It's freaking them out, and the plan in the 90's was to break up the Russian Federation and put everything under American corporations. Putin came in, ended the war in Chechnya which controlled it's pipeline and that was the end of that until Syria.

    Syria was also vital to Russia since Moscow depended on the Shia crescent to protect their moderate Sunnis from the influence of the jihadists coming in from the Gulf. It was these CIA instigated jihadi/terrorists that caused the wars in Chechnya and the last thing Moscow wants is a repeat of that.
     
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    I wouldn't say it was a friendship, only that Trump wants the US to have good relations with Russia - how radical is that? Trump knows that when global Islam gets into second gear they're going to need each other.
     
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    [​IMG]
    • Link copied…
    SPAS-TESHILOVO, Russia—The last time term limits forced Russian leader Vladimir Putin to step down from the presidency, he became prime minister for a few years.

    This time around, a group of pro-Kremlin activists have a different idea: Proclaim him Czar Vladimir.


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    “We will do everything possible to make sure Putin stays in power as long as possible,” Konstantin Malofeyev, a politically active businessman, said recently to thunderous applause from hundreds of Russian Orthodox priests and members of the country’s top political parties gathered at a conference outside Moscow. They were united by one cause—to return the monarchy to Russia.

    While there are no plans to crown a new Emperor and Sovereign of All the Russias, as part of the royal title once went, the idea raises the possibility Mr. Putin could stay beyond the two-term limit the constitution allows.

    The Kremlin has given little sign of who may succeed Mr. Putin when his six-year term ends in 2024, leaving many to speculate, sometimes wildly, about what’s next.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/czar-v...s-want-to-bring-back-the-monarchy-11544732680


    I can't explain you terror over the ideas of russians.


    I know it already. The cradle of communism is a backwards place, imo.
     
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    Trump also knows that his personal business interests would be negatively affected and that is where his focus is.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well they've all got 'business interests' so why should he be an exception? [​IMG]
     
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    This of course is Russia's point of view.
    It's not shared by the West.
    I feel sorry for the Baltic nations, Finland, Georgia and the like.
    They could go the same way as those businessmen, journalists,
    dissidents, opposition leaders and intelligence officers who have
    crossed Putin.
     
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    Who is all? Business interests in Russia?
     
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    Why not Russia? [​IMG]
     

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