I wondered when the Left would start spitting on veterans again

I do too, they were hysterical because it was real comedy with real comedians. Not so much today.

 

I never realized how much that SNL had in common with the Trump Administration.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

projections

right wingers kill far more

The majority of BLM members here in the Twin Cities are white. And they did not engage in violence as everybody knows.

LOL. Reagan and Bush are rightists who took away guns. The far right applauds when cops kill innocent blacks. Ironically they have to pay the taxes which fork over millions in compensation to the victims while complaining of high taxes.

sure you do - by attempting to call them leftists when they are rightists

LOLOLOL

 

It's clear there are many things you don't realize, and the evidence suggests that is a growing list...

 

Making fun of the way someone looks because of their disability is not funny. Especially a disabled vet.

 

I seem to remember pictures of Nam vets throwing their medals into a river, the other side of the coin. Incidentally how do you possibly know the political persuasion of civilians over 63 years ago? While we are on the subject, what are you’re views on Trump, the 5 times draft dodger. ‘Please, daddy don’t let them send me over there. I could get really hurt’. Big mouth, no guts.

 

Except that it's not an insult. It's just a mildly funny comparison.

 

Did you have a point to make?

 

Come on our surely not that dumb all it requires is an answer

 

Nope. Truths.

Nope. But feel free to show me.

So you're saying it is only the BLM members who are POC who are violent and kill police officers? That's pretty racist of you.

Weird, how these police shootings primarily occur in Democratic Party-controlled shitholes, where corrupt leftists run the cities and counties and states and the police and the District Attorneys Offices and the city councils and the mayorships and the firefighters and parks and recreation and everything in between, where all the elected officials and the appointed officials are all part of the corrupt leftist machine.

Interesting, how these shitholes more resemble a third world African or South American country rather than a normal American city.

Why is this?

Look up Clinton, the Democratic Party controlled congress in 1994 and the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act.

You really are not this ignorant, are you? You are going for laughs here, right?

If you truly believe that is is the left who are protecting our 2A rights, feel free to provide some proof.

Oh, and you never addressed how it is leftists who physically spit on members of our military:

 

Disgusting to say the least, but this is who the left is today!

 

Not directly, but the data I've supplied clearly refutes the claim that religion and politics aren't entangled. That you know a democrat is anecdotal and as I've already pointed out, about 2/10 of your fellow devotees are likely to be. Meaning, 80% of the folks in the pew are conservative. A quick peak around the globe should also remind you how consistently religious fundamentalism and conservatism go hand in hand.

Maybe you can find another pair of magical glasses to help you see this painfully obvious fact of reality.

 

Interesting how you see personal testimony. I see no personal testimony offered by witnesses, other than from me, that equate to your conclusion. As to 80 percent of we LDS supporting Republicans, I agree with that. But it has nothing to do with religion. I was told by a LDS member who is Democrat that we do have such a ratio. I have yet to see a study done on my group that is based on some sort of accurate collection of data. It is anecdotal. And you reject that.

Here are my own findings. We do not discuss politics at the Church. So I have no personal evidence we are conservative nor a support group for democrats.

Conservatives is a lousy term when one means either republican or democrat. i often go off on the lousy use of the term liberal.

To be liberal, the Democrats would be the party that is trying to scale back law, not we republicans. Democrats should be the party cranking off the torture wheels, not we republicans were they liberal. The Democrats of 1933 came to power with thousands of current laws not on the books. They want to show up in DC full of vinegar to make more laws. It never slows down for them. Very authoritarian.

They brag they created the ACA. But look at that law. Full of rules, regulations, punishments and fines. So drastic it changed a 40 hr workweek to a 30 hr workweek for many workers.

 

My conclusions are based primarily on survey data, but also from observation. If you pull a sample from any group that identify as fundamental or evangelical, you'll find they tend to be right leaning politically. This has been proven out time and again by basically any polling organization you can find.

Sure it does, your beliefs lead you to be behind certain policies, those policies tend to be in line with conservative politicians. I'm sure why you're being stubborn on this... In simple terms, folks who are anti-abortion aren't voting for pro-life candidates.

Do you not understand how statistics work? You don't actually have to survey every single group to find an the mean...

No need to discuss outright, it's baked in.

Conservative is precisely what I mean, I'm not trying to make a statement about partisanship (although that's also true), liberal and conservative often are misused, but that's not the case here. Conservatism is an ideology seeking to maintain tradition, I can think of very few things as traditional as religion.

Speaking of misusing the term liberal.... liberalism and authoritarianism couldn't be farther from one another on the spectrum and once again democrats aren't the same thing as liberals, no matter how much they insist.

 

OK, here is what we established.

You support Democrats. You believe yourself to be this so called Liberal.

But you ignored the real world of Democrats whom as I accurately point out are the father to modern laws. Laws to rule over this people. We set up a country to enhance freedom. Democrats detract from Freedom. That you won't see it tells me a lot.

I say Democrat and republicans due to the voting system. The voting system is not designed to color the definitions. My vote was cast and the terms used are democrat and republican. Perhaps my state errs. Does your ballot speak of liberal?

 

I'm nonpartisan and a centrist. I would also consider myself a classical liberal. Only one of the two of us is making assumptions about the other. I'm sorry if the facts I brought to the table didn't jive with your anecdotal experience, I guess..

Laws are important, we're a nation with a rule of law. Importantly I'm not here to defend democrats, both parties have passed legislation that have infringed upon the rights of citizens, but unlike you I don't try to lay that blame at the foot of one of the two members of the duocracy.

Their both correct in the right context, it matters whether we're talking political parties or ideologies. In either case, it remains true that: the more religious you are, the more likely you are to be a conservative and/or republican. There's no slithering out of the data on this one m8.

 

If any Church sprang to life as progressive, it has to be the LDS. The church had fights with government. Goverment jailed members. Government killed Joseph Smith in jail. Government chased the LDS to Utah. Government sent armed troops to fight the LDS.

So why is it said we vote for republicans? I can say my LDS parents voted only Democratic party. I do not recall them discussing politics at church. I used to support Democrats and then I attended church more than today. I had to be educated to the problems posed to the country by Democrats.

I have made my own personal observations as to who the father of current law is and it has to be Democrats. They would not own the power in all states so as to a state, only in my state of CA can I speak with any authority. But here in CA we are blanketed by laws and they pile them up annually. They tighten the grip on we CA like perhaps other states do not notice. States have opted for more gun freedom. Not CA. CA has to be one of the most punishing states on taxes except for the proposition 13 tax on property. We citizens voted into law proposition 13 and but for that, property taxes could be the tops for the nation. Fortunately the way the law is written, the Democrats who hate that law have not found a way to defeat it.

Democrats in CA changed our voting laws. They get to run two Democrats or more for the same office blocking out we republicans. I may be tainted by the CA democrats and admit that. But for your sake, do not copy CA.

 

Hilarious! You mean the same church that restricted black membership? I suppose it may be progressive in its modernity, but that's about it.

Probably abortion. I'm sure there's other issues. Are you understanding that I'm not just making a claim? that all the evidence supports exactly what I'm saying? I'm also not trying to convince you, it's just a fact.

I'm sorry, but I just can't take your judgement seriously though. You believe a guy found magical glasses and it revealed to him the word of God. Brought to you buy a known huckster. If you're able to buy that, you'll believe literally anything.

 

Well hell, after that diatribe preceded by the earlier diatribes, I am an inferior human being were I to listen to your counsel.

Why would I lay the blame for the laws at the head of the Democrats?

This will hint why.

 

I've not made any subjective claims other than doubting the veracity of your internal truth finding device based on your beliefs in mystical powers.

Not sure why you think yourself now inferior, I wasn't making value judgement either (you seem to want to infer far more than what I write), keep your head up champ, I'm sure you're still a swell dude.

 

Looks like Trump "spit on" the vets when the "rain" kept him from a commemoration.... just sayin...

 

Veterans don't deserve anything special, they have not fought for our freedom since WW2. They should stop being treated like ducking heroes and more like the murderous cowards they are going to countries in the middle east that had nothing to do with 9/11/01 and killing hundreds of thousands of people. Saudi Arabia was responsible for 9/11/01.

 

The troops do not set foreign policy. The 9/11 terrorists were mostly Saudi, but Saudi Arabia was not behind them. Why did you make such a nasty and inaccurate post?

 

The bootlicking conservative right fetishizes the military and authority in general.

 

I'm curious if there is any actual evidence - beyond claims of incidents that supposedly occurred 50 years or so ago - that this ever happened?

Even once?