Poll shows high job approval for Trump from veterans

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    True. Trump can call for a court-marshal if he has the cojones to do so.

    ARTICLE 88 – CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS​

    Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
    McChrystal has clearly expressed his contempt for the lowlife.

    My guess is that Trump will aim a plethora of hysterical, vindictive pissytweets at him.
     
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    Trump should demand that McCrystal retract his statement or face a court martial. Whether you agree with the president or not, he is the commander in chief of the armed forces and that position demands respect. He does not have to earn it. He has it by definition and criticism such as this by a high ranking officer is counter to that position.

    If McCrystal had the integrity he supposed to have as a general officer, he would resign his commission and lose his retirement.
     
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    Yes, and...? The average vet, more often male, is more than ten years older than the average voter. It's not surprising they often swing right.
     
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    Message to Trump: there's some dirt people won't eat.
     
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    What a load of crap! Trump is a freebooting con man you put in the White House.
     
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    Notice to all who are listening. Trump is the commander in chief of the armed forces. McCrystal is undermining his authority and as a general officer he should know better.

    Whether Trump is fit to be in office is totally irrelevant.
     
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    As I noted, the lowlife doesn't have the cojones to demand McCrystal be court-marshaled.

    McCrystal stated the obvious: “I don’t think he tells the truth,” and acknowledged that he is "immoral."

    Is is possible to be honest, accurate, and "contemptuous" as Article 88 specifies? I assume so.

    Trump's usual pattern is to spew his venom via spiteful tweets.
     
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    Whether it is true or not is not relevant. McCrystal violated the law. And if Trump does like he should, the left would go wild because of Trump's mistreatment of one of "our heroes". In short, no matter what he does, he loses because the left wants him to lose. Fair play or the laws are not relevant to the left and you have proved it.

    Hypocrisy at its best.
     
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    It so is. Whats funny is everyone else was shooting AR's today.

    Hits out to 600 were made, but with the AR you may not even hear the "tink" against the steel.

    When a K31 hits steel you know it. It rings those suckers.

    Trump got thumbs up from 2 Army guys today. And one fireman and one PA.

    Only the deputy coroner was lukewarm. He kept bringing up Putin.
     
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    It likely was. Im told the base is a no go for exploration or civilian shooting time.
     
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    True.

    I've heard the suggestion that some of our vets go back into the classroom, to help kids learn.

    But I've also heard lefty teachers don't want it.
     
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    They aren't swinging right, they are learning more and becoming more experienced.

    Its the same reason married women tend to vote more conservatively.

    They have a husband around to influence them.

    The left supports a break up of the family.
     
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    McChrystal retired. Good luck with the court-martial.
     
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    I have learned from Trump that those who serve are not the brightest.
     
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    Social conservatism isn't a result of becoming more experienced.
    Perhaps a similar explanation to married men voting more liberal.
    So how come so many divorces in red states?

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    Worth noting that in the 2018 Midterms the GOP managed around 45 million votes compared to the Dems 61 million. That Dem vote count is almost as many votes as the BLOTUS received in 2016 during a presidential year. That the Dems could virtually equal that in a Midterm election demonstrates exactly how relentless his disapproval is nationwide.
     
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    Your BLOTUS has just LOST Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania in 2018 which were the 3 EC states he used to win in 2016.

    Where is your BLOTUS going to make up all of those LOST EC votes for 2020?

    FTR 68% of veterans supported your BLOTUS in 2016. His support amongst veterans has DROPPED by 10 percent DOWN to just 58% now. There is no reason to anticipate that TREND is going to change.

    The BLOTUS is LOSING support in every voting demographic except for one that is declining due to age. With all other demographics growing the outlook is bleak for 2020.
     
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    McCrystal was speaking for the MAJORITY of military OFFICERS who DISAPPROVE of your beloved BLOTUS.

    If you want to publicly humiliate and punish McChrystal then go ahead and watch the rest of the officer corp shun your BLOTUS en masse.

    The military swears an Oath of Allegiance to the Constitution. They owe no allegiance to the SHYSTER-in-Chief.
     
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    Ironic PROJECTION duly noted for the record.

    How many military officers denigrated Obama during his administration? Does General McCaffrey ring any bells? Did you demand that he be tried and stripped of his pension?

    Yup, hypocrisy at it's finest!
     
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    I thought polls were worthless.
     
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    He may be retired, but he is still being payed. He is still subject to the UCMJ.
     
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    The polls indicate he has about the same popularity as in 2016.
     
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    Go read Article 88.
     
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    The polls Trumpcult is bragging about show 59% of veterans agreeing that Trump is a "strong leader" That leaves more than 40% of veterans thinking that their Commander in Chief ISN'T a strong leader! Not the ringing endorsement they'd have you believe
     
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    So we are going to the "whatabout" defense. It is a matter of degree and wording. Saying Obama is a threat to national security is an opinion of his actions. We are permitted to criticize a presidents actions. Saying he is immoral and dishonest is attacking his character.

    If he is brought up on charges in a court martial, it will be a slam dunk. There are only two questions to ask. Is he subject to the UCMJ. The answer is clearly yes. Was his words contemptuous? The answer is clearly yes. Guilty.
     

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