Border Patrol Snags More MS-13 Members, Convicted Sex Offenders Trying To Jump Border

Obama shut the government down over funding for obamacare

And trump is doing the same for border security

 

Yeah Right!

Illegal Alien Charged with Violently Raping College Student

 

Read the link.
tRUMP is responsible. He needs to know who he hires.
I am not the one blaming, the law is. Ignorance of the law, is no excuse.

 

So, killing would be considered ok by you, if the church asked you to do it because it's a religious purpose.
I don't think that will fly.
Why did churches get away with some illegal activity? Or do you think a church is immune from all criminal activity?

And hiring an illegal is just as much a crime as harboring one.

 

LOL. The Dems are in any power position.
How many Senate R's voted for the spending bill with $5B?

 

The law never blamed him....the law againsst hiring illegals requires it to be a knowing hiring of an illegal. In the 80s case you highlighted Trump hired a Contractor to do a job....that person then hired sub-contractors, who's work visas expired...when Trump became aware that's when payments stopped. He did what one should do.

 

In other words:

Trump STIFFED the contractors and didn't pay anybody else.

Got it.

 

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample.[1][2] Rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group).[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

 

The Orange man cons his base over and over on the immigration issue. We release them as fast as we catch them.
https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/about...ce-wednesday-over-1000-released-past-few-days

 

Or, once you find out.
I think, according to the story, tRUMP knew the contractor had illegals working for it.
The story stated, tRUMP was responsible for the workers.
Why do you think he settled the law suit? And had it sealed until recently?

 

I didn't say that....churches are immune from some yes, but not all. The Court will look at not if the belief is true or not but if it's a deeply held and sincere belief....look at US v. Ballard....

he shouldn’t pay the illegals, he got out when he found out they where not legal.

 

Barack Obama‏Verified account @BarackObama

I strongly believe that we should take on, once and for all, the issue of illegal immigration. #SOTU

 

We should be so scared of those people trying to get here.

Ever hear of the 2nd amendment?

Use the right. I am not scared.

Most of those folks just want to work and make a better life.

I'm Scot-Irish. My people were shunned. We made our own way.

 

Because it’s cheaper to settle sometime then fight.

 

Democrats have never claimed that illegal aliens don't commit crimes and Democrats don't support unlawful entry into the United States. They never have.

At the same time illegal aliens have a violent crime rate of about 1/2 of the crime rate for those born in the United States while immigrants overall have a crime rate of about 1/4th the crime rate of those born in the United States. A person is far safer living in a community of immigrants, including illegal aliens, than they are living in a community of natural born Americans.

 

Two is good

Hopefully Vladdy Daddy doesn't get a contract with 10,000 of them...

 

What is a progressive libertarian?? Sounds dangerous

Guess I need to work on my profile

 

Oh bullshit. Next tell me that the Sanctuary City movement isn't a Democrat movement.

You mix legal with illegals? Cute!

Illegals Committed a Disproportionate Share of Federal Crimes, 2011-16

21% of those convicted of non-immigration crimes were illegals — 2.5 times their share of the population

https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116

 

The sanctuary city issue isn't a border security issue and the foundation for it is based upon having a more effective law enforcement capability in neighborhoods that have high immigrant populations. Without the assistance of the community law enforcement becomes highly ineffective and when local law enforcement has been working with federal immigration authorities in the past they found that they lost the support of the local immigrant population making law enforcement nearly impossible. There really isn't any such thing as a "sanctuary city" because it's an undefined term. All it effectively means is that local law enforcement is not going to go beyond the requirements in the law to perform duties assigned to federal government law enforcement agencies that are outside the jurisdiction of the local and state police departments.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with securing our borders.

You source refers to all crimes excluding purely immigration crimes. That includes crimes like using a fake SSN to obtain employment and other non-violent and/or victimless crimes. My information was very accurate when addressing violent crimes that are crimes against person.

The following information is from the highly conservative CATO foundation ( furnished by FactCheck.org)

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is-illegal-immigration-linked-to-more-or-less-crime/

The crime rate for legal immigrants is less than 30% compared to native born Americans.

This is related to our government shutdown over the Trump wall which is somewhat ironic. The Border Patrol doesn't actually want Trump's proposed mile-high concrete wall (that Mexico will pay for not costing US taxpayers a cent - Trump campaign promise) because they need to be able to see what's happening on the other side of the border. If anything they need steel fencing (and it can't be the kind with pointed tips because of the liability of someone became impaled on the fence.

Additionally we've already built 700 miles of fencing in the most important border areas based upon 2006 legislation but the federal government has been unable to establish it's effectiveness because it's so easily breached by going under it, over it, or around it. It's also noted that those crossing the US border illegally are not drug smugglers. Overwhelmingly illegal drugs enter the United States concealed in vehicles that enter through a port of entry. A person walking across the border simply can't carry enough illegal drugs to make the trip worthwhile.

Of course, as noted, MS-13 is not going to try and enter from a US port of entry and refugees wouldn't be trying to enter illegally if Trump followed the Refugee Act of 1980, our current immigration laws, and issued the allocated refugee visas that were authorized by Congress. Stopping illegal border crossings is a lot easier and more effective when you allow those that are supposed to be lawfully admitted to actual enter the country lawfully. Trump's created this problem by not following the Refugee Act and our current immigration laws that grant lawful entry to refugees.

 

Yes it is. It's democrat nullification of federal law.

Mindless hyperbole. He has not proposed a mile high wall.

Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall
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In a survey conducted by the National Border Patrol Council, the agents’ union, they overwhelmingly supported adding a “wall system” in strategic locations, embracing President Trump’s argument that it will boost their ability to nab or deter would-be illegal immigrants.

DEMOCRATS WOULD RATHER SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAN SECURE THE BORDER.

 

Let's do a little fact checking.

Based upon a survey done in April, 2018:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/2/border-patrol-agents-back-trump-wall-survey-finds/

Starting with the second issue first the Obama Administration solved the "catch and release" problem with a pilot program where those seeking asylum were assigned a case worker that would keep track of them and provide them assistance in their asylum process. The appearance rate for those asylum seekers in the immigration courts soared to virtually 100%! That problem was solved until May of 2017 when the Trump Administration canceled that program.

On the "border wall" the Border Patrol's opinion and Donald Trump's opinions don't match. The Border Patrol is actually calling for additional fencing in "strategic locations" while Trump has repeatedly stated he wants a solid concrete wall (that Mexico will pay for and not US taxpayers) along the entire US-Mexican border. Those "strategic locations" must be analyzed for effectiveness which hasn't been done by the Trump Administration.

The Democrats did not want to shut down the government and have not ruled out additional fencing in limited strategic areas that the majority of Border Patrol agents endorse.

Democrats in the House have proposed funding all of the government through the end of the fiscal year except for the Department of Homeland Security (responsible for the fence or other border security improvements) that would be funded through Feb 8th. This would allow Congress time to review recommendations from experts on the best possible use of limited financial resources to secure the most significant improvements in border security. Those experts may very likely recommend additional fencing in certain strategic areas, which is exactly what the majority of Border Patrol agents want, and the Democrats would then support that fencing just like they did in 2006 when they supported 700 miles of pedestrian and vehilce fencing in the most strategic areas along the border.

President Trump has not presented any expert analysis of the best use of taxpayer money in providing the best possible improvements in border security. All Trump has done is force the federal government into a shutdown that neither Democrats or Republicans want and that Americans oppose by nearly a two-to-one margin by demanding a down payment of $5 billion on an estimated $30 billion plus installation of a "wall" (not steel fencing) along virtually all of the US-Mexican border.

The American taxpayers oppose Trump on his "wall" as well as Democrats and the majority of Republicans in Congress. The House Democrats are sending basically the same legislation back to the Senate that doesn't contain funding for Trump's wall that was passed last month unanimously by the Republican lead Senate. That legislation also includes provisions for the improvements to our border security that both Democrats and Republicans endorse based upon a cost-benefit analysis of which measures would best provide the most improvements in border security.

Once again though, eliminating the more than 5,000 refugees waiting on the Mexican side of the border to be allowed to apply for asylum and receive one of the Congressionally authorized refugee visas would greatly reduce the number of refugees attempting to enter the country unlawfully to apply for asylum (also in compliance with our immigration laws).

Allowing those that have a lawful right to immigrate to the United States to actually enter the United States when they show up at a US port of entry greatly reduces the pressure on the Border Patrol so that they can focus on actual criminals attempting to enter the United States. That alone provides improved border security and it doesn't cost even one extra dime.

 

Oh bullshit.

Democrats are the party of Immigration Law Nullification via "Sanctuary" Cities. Democrats would rather shut down the Federal Government than secure the border.

 

And they want Sanctuary Cities, which essentially try the same thing the Confederacy did, to nullify federal law. I hope Trump hangs tough, this could be a winning issue for him.

 

You just don't want to do anything to stop illegal crossings. Walls reduce them 95% yet the left would rather shutdown the government than fund it. Trump was elected partly on his promise to build a wall.

 

Trump was also elected partly on his promise to make Mexico pay for it... If I recall my recent history correctly