NYC Care Is Coming, and So Is the Health-Care Reform Wave

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Well, you can prevent that by letting them die. It would "decrease the surplus population".

    I thought I illustrate your point by quoting Ebenizer Scrooge!
     
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    This seems like a dishonest communication to me as low income people who are citizens have healthcare via state and maybe federal funds. It seems like this is an illegal immigrant program, which most definately will be interesting to watch. They will pass through Oklahoma and head straight to New York.
     
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    So, that $100,000,000 will come from.. where?
     
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    The Democrats have borrowed Harry Potters wand of course :roflol:
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Magical Mystical "Progressive" Money Tree.

    It's where all "free" stuff comes from...
     
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    Oh good, more piecemeal approaches that will ultimately cost more then it should, giving more ammo to the opponents who can show that it doesn't 'work' because your trying to incrementally change something that requires a complete overhaul.
     
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    One hundred million dollars is not a monumental sum when talking about health care. Dividing $100 million by 600,000 people comes to about $170 per person. A pilot project run by the city to provide medical coverage to 1,300 uninsured illegal immigrants cost about $6 million, or $4,500 a person. That's about 27 times what the city is allocating per capita for the new program. Among the services included will be access to specialty and mental-health care. The cost of medication will also be covered. Any time you’re seeing a primary-care doctor or a specialist and you’re getting your issue addressed, that’s immensely better and cheaper than going to an emergency room. In addition, NYC Care will set a person up with a primary care provider who can refer them to mental health services including alcohol and substance abuse programs and therapy sessions.

    Helping people to get routine health care on the front end, will save a lot of money on the back end when people get really sick, and need emergent care or extended hospital stays.
     
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    You avoided the question, which was the entirety of my post.
    Absent new taxes, where will that $100,000,000 will come from?
     
  9. rahl

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    The UK system is vastly superior to ours.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Yup.
     
  11. NMNeil

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    It was, now it's an out of control bureaucratic nightmare.

    The world's largest employers:

    1.US Department of Defense - 3.2 million

    2.People's Liberation Army (China) - 2.3 million

    3.Walmart - 2.1 million

    4.McDonald's - 1.9 million

    5.UK NHS - 1.7 million

    6.China National Petroleum Corporation - 1.6 million

    7.State Grid Corporation of China - 1.5 million

    8.Indian Railways - 1.4 million

    9.Indian Armed Forces - 1.3 million

    10.Hon Hai Precision Industry (Foxconn) - 1.2 million
     
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    no, it still is
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's worth it because there are large populations of illegal aliens in New York City. They fell though the cracks of Obamacare.
     
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    We already have a public option.

    https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/
     
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    This is amazing news. The state level is where these types of experiments should be managed.
     
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    Great. Let's see and point it out.
     
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    With free healthcare for all the democrats should easily win NY State in the 2020 presidential election
     
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    Great plan. All that is required is to ignore that Americans are fatter and sicker than ever in spite of record profits for the pharm industry. It is refreshing to hear that there are no plans to raise taxes. Admitting that they had the money all along, but were just irresponsible with it is a good start.
     
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  19. HumbledPi

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    I think that's the best part of this plan. People in the Bronx, where this will be taking effect, will now have medical care, advice and counseling at their disposal and all free. This is where the problems with diabetes, hypertension and other diseases created by a poor diet can be addressed. There's nothing more vital to the health and wellness of anyone than preventative care.
     
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    I must have missed your answer:
    Absent new taxes, where will that $100,000,000 will come from?
     
  21. HumbledPi

    HumbledPi Well-Known Member

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    Answered already, go back and catch up
     
  22. TOG 6

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    You are fully aware of the fact your statement is false.
    Disagree? Cite the post and the text to that effect.
    Absent new taxes, where will that $100,000,000 will come from?
     
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    Everybody gets a free bottle of aspirin.
     
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    But the poor diet is subsidized by you and me. Government doesn't use our tax dollars to subsidize kale or broccoli. After we pay to make them sick, the doctor will prescribe a drug to mask symptoms so that they may continue their habits. Once side effects start showing up, more prescription drugs will be required. What you are calling "health care" does not prevent illness and does not create cures. They create lifetime customers.
     
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    Why can't single state MFA work? I understand that it will not work at any level, but let's encourage them to try it in their states and not bring it to mine.
     

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