Narrow majority backs Trump on Syria, Afghanistan troop reductions

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  1. WillReadmore

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    Uh-huh.

    The warning to Turkey came as Ankara has mustered military forces, including tank regiments, along the Syrian border and deep in Afrin after last year's 'Operation Olive Branch' plunged pro-Turkish forces accross the border inside Syrian Kurdish enclaves.

    Last week Turkey's leaders, including the defense minister, described preparations underway for another major Turkish assault on US-backed Kurdish positions east of the Euphrates, following the exit of American advisers based on Trump's previously announced pullout. But it appears Trump is now putting Ankara on notice, and is prepared to thwart any Turkish invasion plans by establishing a "20 mile safe zone".

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-ready-devastate-turkey-economically-if-kurds

    Hit 'em in the pocketbook!
     
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    The issue is far larger than preventing the slaughter of Kurds.

    There are concerns about Syria itself, about Iran, Russia, China, Israel, terrorism, etc.
     
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    Make the case to Congress. If you can't get an authorization to use force, perhaps you can get a letter of marque (Article I section 8): “The Congress shall have the power…to declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal.”
     
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    The justification is that we have no confirmation or clarification that the POTUS has done anything wrong, during the campaign or otherwise. To act as though he had, and to base all of our political actions based on that, is to align with the Kremlin in undermining America.

    I'm not going to give the Russians the benefit of doubting our government while destroying my country from the inside.
     
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    The adults would not have allied to destabilize a country. You keep referring to people that I don't trust as the people that should decide.
     
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    It makes a lot of sense if you are aware of the nefarious use of the perception of "expert".
     
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    Syria was destabilized by an exceptionally long drought that drove millions from farms into the cities in search of food. Plus, the response to that and other issues came from a criminal dictator, Assad, who has been on our "regime change" list since Bush put him there in 2001.

    If you want adults to make the decisions, you will have to vote for adults. Today, we have Trump and warmongers like Bolton.
     
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    "regime change" list...Thank you for admitting that Obama's foreign policy was nothing other than a continuation of the cabal's plan.

    Now, Trump wishes to remove the troops from an area that they should never have been in the first place, he gets complete blowback from supposed "liberals". You guys have fallen so far.
     
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    Israel is not our ally.
     
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    ?? Really??

    The fact that it was a mistake to invade somewhere does NOT mean that the correct new policy is to walk away. And, your comments about prior strategy is lacking in facts.

    More importantly, the real problem here is that Trump has NO PLAN, and that he made a momentous national security decision without consulting our military or our state department.
     
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    Right... he didn't consult the war mongers before ending a terrible conflict. When did you hand in your liberal card?
     
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    The decisions we've made to go to war have ALL been made by OUR PRESIDENTS.

    The least we can do is consult the military to see what they believe is possible, what they believe the result will be ...

    ... and whether THEY think we've beaten anyone.

    Our president says we beat ISIS.

    Our military says we have not.

    That's a major difference of opinion when it comes to make decisions like walking away.
     

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