Shutdown - Hardship or Paid Vacay?

Try reading my post again. Trump never said Mexico was going to pre-pay......

 

Well...there are others who actually have to work WITHOUT pay. So while you are enjoying your "time off" others are not. How do you tell people like the border patrol agents to work without pay, according to Trumps, for months??

 

Perhaps rather than complaining about democrats, you should go down to the border and volunteer your services. Or are you too good to do so?

 

Perhaps you can tell your boss you are willing to work without pay for weeks, or months....and get that money later.

 

Too bad for you that you work for a company that sucks.

 

A couple? Your math is terrible.

 

So the tax payers are getting screwed over twice?

 

I do what I want everyday. No boss. Take the day off if I want parts of the year. Could have retired at 40 but love it too much to quit. It really isn’t as bad as you make it out to be...

 

Care to elaborate? Don’t gov employees get paid every two weeks? A wise person is prepared to live at least 6 months without income. If you aren’t and you have a family you are grossly irresponsible. That’s terrible.

 

He still owns the golf courses and hotels. Him becoming President has resulted in a huge increase in profits that will go into his pocket. His salary (equivalent to two new member subscriptions) is insignificant compared to the increase in revenue at his golf course and hotels since the election

 

Just to clarify, the "non-essential" employees are not working but may end up being paid for not working.

 

Then you recognize that this man is a wizard in business management; and that we need that kind of talent managing the nations business instead of the battalion of asshats in congress who can never get anything done correctly, on time, or at reasonable cost. Good call.

 

So you acknowledge that him giving his relatively insignificant salary to charity is just an empty gesture to appeal to, and promote by, people like you.

 

So you are suggesting we raise his salary to be significant, for example as are common among major corporate CEO's, and see if he still donates it back to government.

IF he does- what will you do then?

Trump doesn't need the money. It's a common illusion among the armchair experts to think that the high achievers do so for money, and they are wrong. Money is necessary for the machinery of business to grow, but it's just points on a scoreboard- it is the achievements that fuel such people, the act of excelling, of winning the race, climbing the mountain, doing what others cannot do or has never been done.

You should be very glad such people exist, because they are the ones who make things happen, who create the things that your life is built upon.

Think just a little bit. If you were older, how much of what you take for granted today would exist?
I knew a woman who was actually in the Cherokee strip land race in 1893- at 6 years old, riding out with her father in a covered wagon. They had to fight a sooner, a man who sneaked in illegally and pre-staked the ground, but managed to drive him off and stake their claim. Then they began building a house- which was known as a soddy, or partial excavation with walls made of prairie sod, tree branches to hold up the roof, which was also sod. It was two years before they got a wood house built and a 30 ft hand dug well into place. Her daughter- a close friend of mine- still owns and farms that homestead today, at age 86- lives alone, keeps horses and livestock, raises wheat. My construction business built her a large home on it about 20 years ago. That old lady used to sit and tell her family the stories of her childhood; I was lucky enough to sit in on some of it.

Those are achievements- made with courage, sweat and blood by people willing to take the challenge. only about 20% of the 115,000 people in that race managed to stake a claim and get improvements done in the time required to gain title. And the land was not free- Cheap, but not free. You don't know anybody with that kind of metal today, but 125 years ago it was what you had to bring to the table to amount to anything. What's more, they weren't whiners, they appreciated everything they had.

Life is vastly easier today- but the people who have the courage still outpace those who don't, just in different ways. They are the few- the achievers, not the masses.
IF that kind of event took place today in similar conditions- the number of people willing to step up to the challenge, put out the same effort, would be close to zero. Why do that, when we all know that somebody owes it and we just sit and wait for it to be delivered. Trump is not one of them- he, and for that matter I, live for the achievement, for the emotional paycheck you earn from yourself when you excel.

The list of achievements he wants to make does not include soothing all the whiners fragile egos.

 

May is th eoperative word but we all know Trump has a history of stiffing workersb

 

He is not really losing out

 

Whiners are never winners, and they always see nothing but the part that they can use to continue whining.
There is a much bigger and more important picture- but they could care less about that, it's someone else's job.

Yes, it is- it's Trumps. He is the leader.

If you can't lead and won't follow, just get the hell out of the way. That is how things get done.

 

So does whining about how much money a billionaire makes make you a winner or a whiner?

Perks for vacationing feds...

 

Day 10 for me. Understand the president invited members of both parties to lunch yesterday and not a single Democrat showed up. Way to extend the shutdown Dems. Thank you for my paid time off!

 

He does?

 

Interesting article... wouldn't be at all surprised.

Trump's shutdown trap?

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html

 

A lot of irrelevant waffle there. "Trump does not need the money"? That did not stop him using more than $100,000 directly out of the Trump Foundation charity to pay off a fine imposed on his personal golf course. That did not stop him using $25,000 directly out of the Trump Foundation charity to buy a portrait of himself for personal use. That did not stop him from not paying agreed contract prices for work done. Plus other similar occasions where he used charity money to buy personal items. A con man

 

not the coast guard

 

We're not allowed to volunteer our services. We only follow orders. My orders are to stay home and get paid for it later. Oh woe is me.

 

We'll all get paid when Dems end the shutdown.