Why is it that all the politicians and the media alike are united in blaming Theresa May for the useless, failed Brexit deal while the EU have not even been criticized in the slightest? If you check the timeline of events, surely it's more the EU's fault than Theresa May? So why the silence? Why is no one criticizing the EU as they so deserve? It was Jean-Claude Juncker who also said that, "This was not only the BEST deal, but that it was the ONLY deal." (Apart from the fact that it wasn't really a deal anyway but a complete failure) Why is no one brave enough to stand up to the EU?
The EU bigwigs probably can't believe why she's making such a song and dance about the withdrawal. She keeps waffling about the referendum result and they expected her to get on with it when Article 50 was invoked. But here we are two and a half effing years later and no further forward. She is determined to stay in as much as possible, and they've been toying with her like a cat toys with a mouse to get as much money from us as they can.
Actually she is trying desperately to appease the few Tory MP's who want no deal or a hard brexit, that is her concern, making sure the Tory party do not split. Remember the Tory party she represents are the party of APPEASEMENT!
because to do that would be to question the basis of the political stability of Europe since the 1950 and open the though process that the liberal elite has been wrong. The founding principles of the EU was to make future conflict within Europe impossible and the only way to do that was to bind nations together though a federated state concept that not only includes trade but also through common ideals of law, society and human rights and in order to achieve this you need to have a collective will that generates the public acceptance of such mutuality.
But that's a bit like reasoning that you can't criticize the UK Prime Minister because they command a majority vote and doing so would undermine the very fabric of our democracy...............Really??!
Exactly it’s all crap, however, that’s the basis of the experiment. And most of the liberal political establishment is on board with it. Anyway, it’s an answer to your earlier question.
I suppose it's just like we always knew the EU would be completely inflexible right from square one in a seemingly deliberate ploy to scupper Brexit. Even now they are reminding us that it's still not too late to cancel Brexit and forget about the whole thing. It's almost too obvious. Whether Theresa May was in on this as well (after all she did campaign alongside David Cameron for vote Remain)? Wasting two years just to come up with nothing is a joke. Theresa May should have been voted out by her own party and replaced with a true Euro Skeptic.
For me the whole thing should have been handed over right at the very begining to an independent committee of lawyers taking instructions from party appointed representatives from each of the political parties, the Bank of England, the FCA and CBI and some form of independent "peoples advocate" that way the politicians, industry and the financial service representative bodies are all covered.
That's right, if the elitists don't want social disruption then keep the populaces happy and dumbed down; but if things don't go the way they want, they'll craftily and subtly light the blue touchpaper of discord and resentment and stand clear. That's what we're seeing in Europe right now actually.
May is entirely to blame for this imbroglio of breath-taking incompetence and confusion - it was a referendum for a simple and uncomplicated In or Out result, but all this time she's being trying to make it half in and half out. So she's wasted two and a half years during which the infrastructure of this country has fallen apart, roads have pot holes the size of sinkholes, food banks commonplace, and all that was what the ten years of austerity was supposed to fix, but instead it will be used for the divorce settlement.
What gets me though is Jezzer's stance on talks with May...okay we all know the things a bollocks up...but the lad's offered few drops of news time and a chance to have Kuensburg slathering all over him and he turns it down! I mean this tosser is happy having talks with the likes of the IRA, Hamas and Daesh but when invited for talks about the future of Britain and the EU ah...that's a different thing! The bugger flops a googly, juts his jaw out and becomes all sanctimonious about life.... so basically unless you'er a wazzed up, brain screwed terrorist organisation his time is just way to friggin precious to be spent on the British People.
If all else fails a No Deal Brexit might not be that bad in the end anyway. https://www.devere-group.com/news/Brexit-no-problem.aspx The UK will simply default to the world trade agreements under the WTO of which the EU is a member. And only around 10% of our trade is with the EU anyway.
Not too bad for who? Only around 10% of trade with the EU? Well it has been getting less but the real number is 44% https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/ As well as throwing the UK into even more stark austerity than it is now, a No deal Brexit will probably result in more violence in Ireland, certainly a vote on reuniting Ireland and demand for same from Scotland. In the end probably either an Independent Scotland and United Ireland or English Nats sending their armies to both places and as a poster on another forum said, returning them home in body bags. Sooner or later there will be an Independent Scotland and United Ireland. https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...958/ministers-discuss-prospect-break-uk-event A no deal would probably see the mass of the people of England suffering the worse excesses of poverty as neo liberalism fights its last stand but it will be on its own. Scotland, Ireland and Wales may eventually work together but England will be on its own. No doubt people from Scotland Ireland and Wales will help those in England fighting for freedom from enslavement in the new feudal society they will be living under. If that is what you want then that is what you want.
I would tend to agree with that but the estimated HMRC additional revenue would be extremely hard estimate in the short term assuming we trade on a "most favoured nation" (MFN) status under the WTO basis which I would doubt. I would assume that when the dust settles after all the politicians have had their ha'peth worth of verbal vomit in respect of the UK/EU political agreement (which is what is being discussed at the moment) I would assume that some form of a bi-lateral preferred nation status would be agreed within the WTO MFN framework. The UK WTO rating schedule is the same as the EUs' WTO schedule so there is no or should be no disputes on the actual tariff rates - they are a mirror of the EUs so I assume that they will be agreed with the EU and other WTO members. Assuming that, then the EU/UK are free within the confines of the WTO to work on Bound tariffs (dependent upon each commodity) between the EU and the UK - the Bound tariff is a negotiable rate and not necessarily the MFN rate as we (UK/EU) would have the flexibility to increase or decrease our (UK/EU) tariffs on a non-discriminatory basis i.e. so long they do not go beyond those defined bound levels. Anyway its' too early to say what will happen until the politicians shut the fcuk up and let the pro's do their work.
Ok, well we don't know and I am being a bit caustic but within definite possibilities. Brexit is fundamentally an English Nationalist venture. Not everybody who voted for it is that I know but that is what was used to get the vote or rather xenophobia was. I believe that for the 'elite haves' who were a substantial part of the Brexit vote, that is those who think they can make a bob or two out of it, it is as this article suggests the dying try of a failed economic policy which has had a dire effect on our Government. The dismantling of the state since the 1980s: Brexit is the wrong diagnosis of a real crisis A No Deal certainly originally and for a considerable time, I would think till I am kicking up the daisies is going to reduce the standard of living of people in the UK. I believe it would be sufficient for Scotland to have a decent majority wanting Independence. The paper in my previous post suggests Ireland would go for a United Ireland and Scotland for Independence. I have also heard murmurs of Wales not being desperately happy staying with England on its own. I hear it does not have sufficient money to go it alone but as I am allowing my imagination, I am suggesting a way might be found. This is in part because I see England, by far the majority of the UK going down a dark road. I do not believe anything will become better for the ordinary person. I see rights being lost and a strong possibility of those in power strengthening it's push to encourage the population against those who are 'foreigners' particularly Muslims. I believe England will be on its own. I believe Brexit is, as that article says for a few wealthy elite. I read that there is a very real possibility that we are going to be moving back to a feudal society and that is what I see England doing going along with its Brexit. However the other main price of Brexit will almost certainly be the Break up of the UK. Wales may stay but I suspect it will try to get away. Scotland and Ireland and Wales if it comes will I believe be open to Diem 25 ideas and we will work to continuing to create a changed and democratic EU on a new more socialist economic structure. I have become convinced that the only way in which Democracy can survive is through social democracy and that is a possibility for the future. I believe that is a credible future. England on its own will become more authoritarian, inequality will grow massively. In the end if we have not destroyed the world through climate change or WW3, things which it would be much more beneficial we were putting our attention to at the moment, there will likely be a revolution in England.
I think many are frustrated that we're just not out. Many are puzzled why the government and Remainiacs thinks "Deal" means "Leave". So after two years of not Leaving and just Dealing, we're no further forward. As May lead it, she gets it in the neck, she was the wrong person to manage Brexit. Just a waste of membership fee. If Junker came over to visit, I'm sure he's well aware his life would be at risk if he met Joe public. The ones that stand up to the EU are not in government handling Brexit.
...I read it....that's about all I can say for it..... ...would you agree that this is the crux of her point? If one takes that assertion as a given, then the implication is a failure of narrative over the whole political spectrum based on the demands of personal gratification and the supply of it. The author harping on about her idea of failed corporatism over an implied social morality is whimsical at best and misses the possibility that the very people that she cannot define as in her us of the word "we"....who is this "we" are the arbiters of their own misfortune. The we just descend into pure fantasy... ...what load of crap!! Anyway as I said I read it....let's leave it at that.
According to the Daily Mail only 12% of the UK economy is exported to the EU and this was back in 2016 when it was still falling. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Europe-steadily-dropped-past-five-years.html
it may be just worth mentioning that comparing "UK economy" and "exports" aren't quite the same thing. If you want like for like you would need work on the basis of tangibles and intangibles (banking and insurance for example). UK Tangible imports versus exports always seem to lead to a trade deficit whilst UK Intangible imports versus exports are generally in surplus.
