A very personal question

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  1. Equality

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    Is there anything else you want me to design and help you with ?

    Initializing system standby ..............scanning for answers..........timeout...........rebooting neurological interface..........standby........standby........standby....:icon_jawdrop:
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    wow
     
  3. Equality

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    Yeah , wow , glad you like it !

    Isn't she beautiful ?

    isnt she beautiful.jpg
     
  4. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As much the difference made by Mendeleiev periodic table some 5 years after he published it.
     
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    The discovery of the Higgs boson doesn't affect me much. The failure to confirm any version of string theory means that it is all nonsense and I don't have to try and understand it.
     
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    We are contributing to the betterment of future humans. That enhances my life because it has great value.

    How has it made your life worse? Are the few bucks a year in taxes to enrich humanity, too much to bear? Why do you obsess over something that has zero impact on your life?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe, maybe not - I personally can't see how it does, but this is specifically about Higgs Boson?

    How do you know that it has? In point of fact it has made no difference to my life whatsoever; indeed if I hadn't read about the 'discovery' somewhere or other, not only would I know they found it, I wouldn't even have known they'd lost it.

    If it does 'enrich humanity' then no, it isn't, but this thread is about how HB does, and you've made it clear that it doesn't enrich yours, so thanks for the input.

    I asked a simple question, and I don't really know why you've taken such an exception to it - unless the question has touched a nerve?? It's just that in my never-ending quest for knowledge - real knowledge, not hearsay knowledge? - I need rational (note that word) answers, and that obviously means asking questions. You see, one of the things what worries me about present-day humankind is this peculiar urge to believe everything without question, irrespective of how ludicrous it is, and I'm determined to get to the bottom of it.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you're spectacularly missing is this isn't about science, it's about cosmology and the hyped-up nonsense surrounding it which only children would fall for.
     
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    Some of this is just poor journalistic interpretation.

    Imagine I'm trying to give you a message and I convey it to you through some Japanese guy who barely understands English.

    The real scientists are not writing these articles you're reading.

    Those articles in popular publications are massively dumbed down in an attempt to appeal to the common population.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, we've already established that, but the fact remains the publications aren't dreaming up the dumbed-down articles, they're wholly basing them on the fake news from the space agencies.
     
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    Science illiterate drivel...per usual.
     
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    The degree to which they "juice up" the articles arguably makes them dreamt up. For example, NASA publishes details of Near Earth Objects which detail how large they are and how close to the Earth their orbits take them. Tabloids run stories of killer asteroids buzzing the Earth and threatening all life when the asteroid in question is relatively small, is passing a long way away and the risk of collision is infinitesimal.

    Alternatively, they can take a single sentence, completely out of context, and make it sound like this was the subject.
     
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    I'm not getting into semantics; I have my perceptions,and that's that.
     
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    Then why are you posting it in the Science part of the forum? :confusion:

    It's not semantics, the facts are published and the media put there own spin on it.

    Do you disagree with the sensationalism; distribute the facts or both?
     
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    Relevant?
    China Is Growing Cotton on the Moon
    https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/china-is-growing-cotton-on-the-moon-65321

    "The lander also carries a container filled with soil and cotton and potato seeds, and the cotton seeds are now sprouting.

    The soil and seeds are secured in an airtight container designed to maintain a temperature of 25 °C. There’s also rapeseed, Arabidopsis, and potato in the soil in the container, along with yeast and fruit fly eggs. The organisms have access to air, water, and other nutrients to help them grow and act as a biosphere, with the yeast decomposing the dead plants and fly waste while serving as food for the flies."

    Of course they died once night time came due to massive drop in temperature (a day on the moon is 29.5 Earth days) but this experiment showed that some seeds will germinate on the moon
     
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    Because whilst I have no scientific qualifications I'm interested in scientific advances and innovations, and especially in the fields of medicine. Why else would I? [​IMG]

    I meant The Don's rhetoric.

    It isn't a question of disagreeing with the dumbing down aspect, just curious as to why they do it to a presumed adult readership/audience. I don't think I'm getting through to you.
     
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    Are they sprouting on the lunar surface, or in the special containers inside 'the lander' ( :roll: ), which would have been designed to promote artificial propagation?
     
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    Tabloid articles are aimed at the low end of the reading scale.

    Anyone who does not know that believes the dumbed down drivel published in tabloids.

    The OP being a classic example!
     
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    This website is amazing. I shudder to think that if I hadn't discovered it I might never have learned about carp fishing.

    Now, I have a cerious queston: What do you do with them after you catch them?
    Awaiting reply with bated breath.
     
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    Isn’t that baited breath?
     
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  21. Equality

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    We treat their hook wound and any other wounds with fish care antiseptic , weight them , take a photo and then put them back .
    It's the sport and fun of the hunt that is the ''thing'' , fun with friends etc .
     
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    We turn our carp into fertiliser

    Bloody things are freaks here
     
  23. The Don

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    Well played :applause:
     
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    I'm surprised you aren't using them for a food source !
     
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    My understanding is that the experiment wasn't planned to be of long duration.

    So, the plants died when moon temperatures for the area went to colder than 100 degrees below zero.

    But, there WAS data gathered concerning growth in moon gravity.

    It turns out that gravity is important in growth. So, we now have data concerning miicrogravity (on ISS), 1g gravity (earth) and now the 1/6 gravity of moon. Soon China can tell us how growth does on Mars.

    My understanding is that plants don't germinate on ISS - they grow, but seeds are essentially never viable.

    Also, there are issues with radiation, as the Moon and Mars don't have protection like we have on Earth. So, perhaps plants would have to be grown in the deep caves where humans could survive.

    All cool, I suppose. However, this all seems oriented to humans living in space. I'm not so interested in that, as it's a super expensive approach to science and robotics keep leaping forward.
     
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