Take a knee for our Sitting President

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  1. Etbauer

    Etbauer Banned

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    Why did god make homosexuals if it wanted homosexuality to be immoral?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Real versed in Theology and Free Will are ya.
    God created man with Free Will.As a test to determining
    if fit for Heaven { Afterlife }.
    Thomas Carlyle wrote of two everlasting empires,necessity
    and free will.
    Or as William James said ... " My first act of free will shall be
    to believe in free will. "
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the great contemporary lies of this half century is that
    Homosexuality is inherent.Or placed upon one at birth.
    Total crock.Homosexuality is Learned.Not overnight but
    gradual with interest.That is how sin also grows.First a small
    sin,then possibly bigger and bolder sins.
    Like the way serial killers develop.First by being cruel to animals
    or pets.Then possible torture and killing of animals or pets.
    Then onto human beings.
     
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    Below are reasons Trump could be a Putin asset.

    Trump has a long financial history with Russia. As summarized by Jonathan Chait in an invaluable New York magazine article.
    "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," said Donald Jr. in 2008. "We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia,’ boasted Eric Trump in 2014.”

    The Russians interfered in the 2016 U.S. election to help elect Trump president.

    Trump encouraged the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails on July 27, 2016 (“Russia, if you’re listening”), on the very day that Russian intelligence hackers tried to attack Clinton’s personal and campaign servers.

    There were, according to the Moscow Project, “101 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia linked operatives,” and “the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.” The most infamous of these contacts was the June 9, 2016, meeting at Trump Tower between the Trump campaign high command and a Kremlin emissary promising dirt on Clinton.

    Manafort, who ran the Trump campaign for free and was heavily in debt to a Russian oligarch, now admits to offering his Russian business partner, who is suspected of links to Russian intelligence, polling data that could have been used to target the Russian social media campaign on behalf of Trump.

    Once in office, Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation of the “Russia thing” — and then bragged about having done so to the Russian ambassador and foreign minister while also sharing with them top-secret information.

    Like no previous president, Trump attacks and undermines the Justice Department and the FBI (“a cancer in our country”) — two institutions that stand on the front lines of combating Russian espionage and influence operations in the United States.

    Like no previous president, Trump attacks and undermines the European Union and NATO — he has suggested that France should leave the E.U. and that the United States should leave NATO, reportedly saying, “NATO is as bad as NAFTA.” The E.U. and NATO are the two major obstacles to Russian designs in Europe.

    There is a great deal more, but I am sure everyone gets the point.
     
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    With Giuliani as his lawyer, Trump doesn't have a chance. Trump has a big mouth. The best witness against Trump is Trump himself. Giuliani has a big mouth. He is the worst lawyer on the planet. Trump him hired him to be his mouth piece. He could not have picked a worse one. That was evident last night.

    Giuliani, didn’t do his client any favors during a CNN interview on Wednesday night in which he conceded that Trump’s former campaign chair, Paul Manafort, may have colluded with Russians.

    Giuliani made that concession while being grilled by host Chris Cuomo about a new revelation that special counsel Robert Mueller believes Manafort shared “polling data” that was “related to the 2016 presidential campaign” with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former colleague of Manafort’s who allegedly had ties to Russian intelligence.

    To Cuomo's shock, in his attempt to distance Trump from his former campaign chair, Giuliani claimed, “I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign ... I have not. I said the president of the United States.

    Which, of course, is not true. Both Trump and Giuliani have said there was no collusion ... period, no collusion between the campaign team and Russia.

    Now Giuliani was forced to concede there was collusion.

    There are two legal principles at play here because Giuliani and Trump both claim Trump knows nothing regarding collaboration between his campaign team and Russia.

    The first is, Trump would never do the dirty work himself. Picture Trump himself providing polling data to a GRU agent. Picture Trump attending the Trump Tower meeting with four Russian operatives instead of his son, son-in-law, and campaign manager. Never happen, right? He orders others to do the dirty work for him, foolishly thinking that gives him the cover of deniability.

    The second is, Trump, not unlike the captain of a ship, is responsible for everything that happens onboard the ship of state, meaning, in this case, the activities of his campaign team. The idea that his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, future NSA, and his foreign affairs analyst could be working with the Russians -- and we know they were -- and Trump is absolved of responsibility is positively ludicrous.

    Put another way, Trump is screwed.
     
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    Your views are righteous. Problem is, you picked the wrong man for whom to express them.
     
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    Well, we don't have free will to do things that haven't been created, so god had to create it to give us the choice to do it (which is ridiculous in it's own right). Also why in the world would that be immoral? Why would a god possibly care?
     
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    Lol, what do you base this very scientific opinion on? Do you think you could decide to be gay? I couldn't.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump or President Trump is working overtime,daily,to improve the
    lot of Americans.ALL Americans,not just the ones that Approve of
    Climate Change or some European Union.
    Unless you can name for us,how rambling-on about Climate Change does
    a single bit of good for average joe American.Or how the European
    Union and Globalist bullies are working for the interest of average Joe
    Americans.It's about time we had a Winston Churchill style President.
    Instead some appeaser like a Neville Chamberland.
    If not for Churchill righting the Ship from Chamberland as he did,
    Britain right now would be singing German songs,eating Sauerkraut
    and Bratwurst and wearing Oktoberfest lederhosen. Maybe Bavarian
    skiing clothes with wide leather belts and alpine hats with cocked feathers.
    Britain right now can't even act like that.They are stuck in never-never land.
    Because of weakness and falling prey to dopey political jargon like
    Climate Change and European Union.
    President Trump will not hear of it.He's a simple and dynamic man
    who gets stuff done and cares not a whit about how sensibilities are
    effected.Being President of the greatest Nation on Earth has it's benefits.
    Also it's drawbacks.President Trump will not let the American people down.
    Hasn't so far.It's Not in his DNA.
     
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    Guess again FOOLardi. While the U.S. would survive economically without California it nonetheless would be a serious loss without it.

    "California is 14% of US GDP and 12% of the population. On average Californians are about 17% more productive than the US average. California provides the US with 13.3% of its taxes— roughly 11% more per capita than the US average. It receives about $350B in Federal spending for $400B in Federal taxes so the US would lose about $50B in tax revenue per year."

    https://www.quora.com/What-would-the-US-economy-be-like-without-California-New-York-or-both
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dunno.I gotta tell ya I do believe Al Jolson would have something
    to say about his beloved California,Today.
    Maybe he's just glad to be away from California,sitting among the
    Angels as he croons other songs instead :
    California,Here I Come {1924}
     
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    Really, that's your answer? Pathetic
    "People do not wish to appear foolish; to avoid the appearance of foolishness, they are willing to remain actually fools. " --Alice Walker, Pulitzer prize-winning novelist
     
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    Did you want us to kiss his ring, too...…..give up our virgin daughters to appease your god?


    I knew Trump worshippers worshipped him as a god but genuflect to him?
     
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    FOOLardi. What utterly inane remarks. However given your moniker, understandable. Like Trump...like FOOLardi.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Trump was true to form.Not one to Kowtow and cave and
    act all squimish and squiggly in the face of abject wrong.
    This bidness { taking a knee and failing to stand for our National Anthem }
    before a ball game } wouldn't last 5 seconds in the 40's,50's or even 60's.
    Maybe the Late 60's when Radicalism took shape & form.
    President Trump was partly responsible for taking apart this Unamerican
    way of Protesting.It wasn't Protesting.It was yer typical garden variety
    cheap Radical Theatrics that have become the standard-bearer tactic for the
    Democrat Party.That and Identity Politics.
     
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    You are free to curtsy all you like for Trump. Enjoy!
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Al Jolson one of the Country's most valued Singers,songwriters
    and actors of his day and beyond,Lived,Worked and Died in California.
    His songs emoted the great feelings of pride of country and Love
    of one's life.I can't think of a more fitting American to ask what they
    feel about California,as it stands today.
    Jolson was too old to enlist in WWII but he was instrumental in
    helping establish the USO and after the War Dept. was deluged with calls
    to let him sing for our troops,Jolson requested he be allowed to go
    anywhere in the world to entertain our troops.
    First one to entertain troops in WWII.Came down with Malaria and
    lost a lung.
    Music Historians claim in his day he was The Best Known,All-around
    entertainer America has ever known.
    Also did more to Promote California,than anyone else in Hollywood.
    Jolson was a Republican.Supported Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.
    Was also Loved by the Black Community who turned out in large numbers
    at his funeral.Police estimated around 20,ooo at his funeral.
    Check out his Grave site { tomb } at Hillside Memorial Park.
    If there's a bigger one in the U.S. I wouldn't know where to locate it.
    Big Man.Big Entertainer.Big Patriot.Big Californian.
    Sometimes BiG IS Better.
    President Trump understands BiG.
    I bet Jolson has his Own MAGA hat sitting alongside his
    Angels as companion.Crooning throughout the days.
     
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    Few will understand why I support Trump ,,, and I'm sure many others support him for similar reasons. Back in 2008, I did some research. Somehow found my way to the Capital Markets Subcommittee on the House side. Richard Baker (R-LA) was running the show and commissioned a GAO study of OFHEO in 1997. OFHEO was formed under HUD in 1992 to regulate Fannie and Freddie and was never funded for obvious reasons. The hearings in 1998 forward were about installing an independent regulator to avoid a systemic failure.

    BTW. Maxine Waters opposed regulating Fannie and Freddie on that Subcommittee, with Chuck Schumer guilt numbers on the Senate side opposing regulation.

    Despite at least 2 bills being written in committee, nothing ever got out onto the floor ,,, because the GOP was scared to take anything away from Democrats even if it was bad. As it turned out, HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo made matters worse by forcing the mass purchases of toxic mortgages in 1999. It took Pelosi and Reid to crash the economy, but it all started in 1999 after Republicans warned of dire consequences.

    To cut this short, do you think for a single moment Democrats would take any responsibility for a 2007-2008-2009 meltdown Republicans warned of in the 1990's? Nope. Democrats didn't like Republicans any more than they would have had the Republicans forced an independent regulator down the throats of the GSEs.

    Trump treats Democrats as they deserve to be treated given how dishonest they are and given that they will never accept him even if he gives them their way.

    So, Melania ---- have a nice trip on that military jet. Wish it could have been the one that was prepped for Pelosi, et al.
     
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    Maxine Waters and Chris Dodd and Schumer were big players forcing
    Bush 43's hand at changing Mortgage standards.Like No down Payment and
    no Income verification.In order to help the underclass and especially Blacks
    become first time home owners.That meant banks were forced to make
    home Mortgage loans which were then treated like paper and sold off to
    secondary mortgage giants and old firms like *Lehman Bros..When Pelosi made Speaker in 2006
    she put Barney Frank in charge of Fannie Mae.He screwed it up Big Time.
    A different kind of screwing up than what Franklin Raines pulled.
    He was forced into Retirement { got a wonderful golden parachute pension }
    Raines was found to have cooked the Books while acting as Chairman
    and CEO at Fannie Mae.He was Clinton's budget director.


    * Took the hit in 2008 due to it's acting more like a Real Estate Hedge fund
    than an Investment Bank.
     
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    This expanded the number of low wage earners put in homes they couldn't afford

    HUD Archives: News Releases
    HUD No. 99-131

    July 29, 1999

    CUOMO ANNOUNCES ACTION TO PROVIDE $2.4 TRILLION IN MORTGAGES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 28.1 MILLION FAMILIES

    See full chart of higher goals by metropolitan area

    WASHINGTON - Housing and Urban Development Secretary Andrew Cuomo today announced a policy to require the nation's two largest housing finance companies to buy $2.4 trillion in mortgages over the next 10 years to provide affordable housing for about 28.1 million low- and moderate-income families.

    Cuomo said the historic action by HUD raises the required percentage of mortgage loans for low- and moderate-income families that finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac must buy from the current 42 percent of their total purchases to a new high of 50 percent - a 19 percent increase - in the year 2001. The percentage will first increase to 48 percent in 2000.

    Commenting on the action, President Clinton said: "During the last six and a half years, my Administration has put tremendous emphasis on promoting homeowners and making housing more affordable for all Americans. Our housing programs and institutions have been a success. Today, the homeownership rate is at an all-time high, with more than 66 percent of all American families owning their homes. Today, we take another significant step. Raising the GSEs goals will help us generate increased momentum in addressing the nation's housing needs. I congratulate HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo and the entire HUD team on their efforts in this important area."

    "This action will transform the lives of millions of families across our country by giving them new opportunities to buy homes or move into apartments with rents they can afford," Cuomo said. "It will strengthen our economy and create jobs by stimulating more home construction, it will help ease the terrible shortage of affordable housing plaguing far too many communities, and it will help reduce the huge homeownership gap dividing whites from minorities and suburbs from cities."

    The mortgage purchase requirement for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - known as the Affordable Housing Goals - was last set by HUD in 1995, under a requirement mandated by Congress. The goals came up for renewal this year, and HUD had the choice of leaving them unchanged, lowering them, or raising them. In addition to helping low- and moderate-income families, the new initiative will also increase the affordable housing goals for loans made to underserved areas and will raise the goal for mortgages to benefit families with very low incomes.

    Under the higher goals, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will buy an additional $488.3 billion in mortgages that will be used to provide affordable housing for 7 million more low- and moderate-income families over the next 10 years. Those new mortgages and families are over and above the $1.9 trillion in mortgages for 21.1 million families that would have been generated if the current goals had been retained.

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy mortgages for both individual homes and for apartment buildings.

    Fannie Mae Chairman Franklin D. Raines joined Cuomo at the news conference in which Cuomo announced the HUD action. Raines committed Fannie Mae to reaching HUD's increased Affordable Housing Goals.

    https://archives.hud.gov/news/1999/pr99-131.html

    This contributed to the housing bubble and slapped AAA rating on Mortgage Backed Securities built on toxic loans.
     
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    Evidence above that the BLOTUS supporters WORSHIP him as their "god-emperor" says volumes about their abject failure to grasp how We the People rejected theocracy and monarchs in favor of self governing.

    I have way too much self respect to ever contemplate debasing myself to that grossly obese mental midget!
     
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    Let us know when Trump:

    Weaponizes the IRS, attacking opponents with audits and other forms of harassment;

    Lets assault weapons walk across the southern border in an attempt to have American bodies justify the repeal of the 2nd Amendment;

    Has a Lois Lerner clone slow walk applications for raising funds to support free speech he didn't agree with;

    Unleashes the NSA to spy on American citizens, sends his NSA Director to Congress to lie about it, exiling anyone who blows the whistle on his crimes and lies;

    Orders the investigation of a reporter who like James Rosen reports news he didn't like;

    Orders the high tech assassination of an American Citizen like Anwar al-Awlaki on suspicion of crimes, creating a new form of due process;

    Forces American citizens to buy products and services whether they need or want them.

    Unleashes his intelligence agencies to spy on the campaign of an opposing candidate.

    Undermines the background check system by bribing localities look the other way when students commit crimes so they can purchase weapons to shoot up schools in an attempt to justify the repeal of the 2nd Amendment;

    It's such a relief after Obama's fascist regime that it's no wonder Trump's supporters haven't abandoned freedom, but are vigilant. We are on the lookout for fascist policies from the Trump Administration that we endured under Obama. Haven't experienced any yet.
     
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    Let us know when there is any FACTUAL CREDIBLE substantiation for that load of rightwing disinformation bovine excrement!
     
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