Prison bars to be REMOVED and prisoners could be given LAPTOPS

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by cerberus, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I'm in favour in educating prisoners, certainly the ones that need rehabilitated. Why are they in jail? Did they drop out of school etc.. Whilst incarcerated, they have to learn, some actually achieve degrees.

    A criminal will always be a criminal but someone who only turned to crime to eat and for shelter should receive help, imo.
     
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    No they should be taken into small rooms chained to the floor and dog fcuked by the special inmates, you know a little introduction to the real world of rehabilitation...let me think...errrmmm I know; something like being made to pay for whatever they have done....I prefer revenge rather than paying for the wee pissants to live it up at my expense. Anyway why is it always about the criminals...I mean why should we care about the poor wee snowflakes....why can't it be about the victims for just once...this friggin reversal of reality really pisses me off...some old lass gets her face flattened for her pension and the bastard thug that does it gets a laptop, hostess service and a night night kiss. Bollocks to them these tw@ts that end up in prison they've had their chances...they've made their choices so they should be made to live with the consequences....if they're mentally sub-normal on going into nick they'll be just as wazzed up coming out the other end no matter what the pansy assed bleeding heart liberals think....
    lord save me.....what a festering noisome pile of poo.....


    anyway...rant over.....:)
     
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    A lot of these people are in jail because it is a better life than on the outside for them.

    And you want to make it even better.
     
  5. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Recidivists are sociopathic opportunists. Nobody in this country needs to starve, never mind steal from their fellow compatriots, some of whom might well be poorer than they are, to buy food.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So why does society create this problem. So the model we live in is not working.
     
  7. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because a certain number of welfare recipients are using their taxpayer-funded means to buy drugs and booze instead of food?
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what's the answer? Do a Portugal and change the criminal offence of drugs to an administrative one. That happened in 2001.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know about Portugal, and care even less. In a nutshell though, the answer is to make criminals fear prison enough to not want to go there. It isn't rocket science.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Portugal did the opposite to your way of thinking; crime dropped and HIV infections plummeted.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you mean by 'the opposite'? In what way did they change their penal system that had so positive a result? And how did it reduce the HIV stats?
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They decriminalised all drugs.

    Very few now die from overdosing and the use of dirty needles causing the transmission of HIV greatly reduced.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...dly-anyone-dies-from-overdosing-10301780.html

    So it's the complete opposite theory of making prison a harsh place for drug users. So that's one fix in society to deal with drugs.

    You won't be able to fix all problems but the fabric of society must be currently wrong to warrant so many incarcerations.

    Education for example. Psychologists refommere children should start school at aged 7. The UK government force kids into learning at aged 4. Why do so many ditch school early?

    Poverty, homelessness etc.. What are the solutions for those? I fully understand murderers should face a harsh prison but the majority shouldn't because the system is not right.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The penal code of any given country is a different issue to drug-taking in prisons, and I'm referring to the former. If you want my comments on the latter then it would be that anyone discovered 'doing drugs' in a prison will have their sentence incrementally increased. It'll soon stop. But of course that won't happen here because there aren't enough prison places to allow for it. Decriminalizing drugs is social insanity.
     
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    I have no issue with this in min security prisons preparing people for release, obviously max security prisons no one would support this

    slave labor just makes for more false crimes and people imprisoned for slave labor

    'Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad."

    man is not a god, slave labor is not god's will, but mans, this just another spin on the old... "I have a God given right to own slaves"... it's in the bible
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.
     

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