Trump's latest lie is a "Whopper"

Remedial reading class appears to have been worthless.

Try his- Stock markets sets right at 100 new record highs in 100 weeks during Trump presidency.
Look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls and see if you can find any president in the last 50 years that has done it.

And I see your comrades in the dem/lib club doing absolutely everything they can to be sure nothing good happens.
You will pardon me if I don't their applaud sabotage of our economy over political bias and the need to prevent Trump from getting points for anything, no matter what it costs the nation. .

 

I notice you chose to ignore the fact that trump policies are bringing back significant numbers of manufacturing jobs that Obama had written off.

 

If you can actually supply hard data on growth of manufacturing jobs that would prove your statement. The only thing I have ever seen from Trump supporters is promises from varios companies many of which have not yet materialized.

And the only actual advantage manufacturing jobs would have over other categories would be pay for employees and increase in wages doesn't show much gains so far during the Trump administration.

 

Sorry but if you have the economic expertise you claim then you should know that stock prices are not an economic indicator. And already agreed that the Trumpmtax cuts provided a major short term benefit to corporate profits at the expense of the deficit.

So far you have failed to support your position of the massive improvements in the economy since Trump took office. Keep trying to divert. It is entertaining to watch you dance.

 

You stated there have been no significant changes in the economy since Trump was elected. I gave you a big one and that is manufacturing jobs that Obama wrote off coming back. Run from that all you want but there it is following you around hot on your tail.

 

No you made a claim without providing any evidence. Probably because you can't actually provide the hard data to show significant increases since Trump took office. Here is an actual piece of data. You will have to change the chart to show a ten year trend.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/manufacturing-payrolls

 

"Ask and ye shall receive"

The Trump Manufacturing Jobs Boom: 10 Times Obama's Over 21 Months

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckd...-10-times-obamas-over-21-months/#1546b7c95850

 

Maybe you should actually read the article:

In the first 21 months of the Trump presidency, nonfarm employment grew by a seasonally adjusted 2.6%. In the same period, manufacturing employment grew by 3.1%, reversing the trend under Obama when overall employment grew faster than employment in the manufacturing sector.

A 3.1 percent seasonally adjusted increase in 21 months is hardly a manufacturing job boom. . It is up a bit from the end of the Obama Presidency but hardly a tremendous increase considering how much Trump cost the deficit to buy those few jobs. And note that it doesn't actually do a comparison over the entire Obama administration.

Rated nice try. But a fail.

 

One always has to consider who/what he is talking to before drawing a conclusion.
The proof of those improvements are everywhere, and apparently you dance through life and manage to miss them all. Reminds me of a professional wrestling referee many years ago on TV, who was known as Blind Harry. Never saw the important stuff.

The stock market IS an indicator. Not of the economy directly, but of the perception and optimism of investors- people unlike you who have a lot of money on the table and are damn sure being careful with it. One has to know how to read the market signals to invest wisely- and it does indeed indicate what to expect, to those wise enough to understand. When people are positive about the future, they invest not only in stocks- but in expansion of factories and other things that do directly result in economy growth. That IS an indicator.

Do YOU have stock investments? No, not the penny stock garbage, but some serious money down? Or are you as usual, the arm-chair expert that has never played the game?

 

When one's perspective view comes from the pit of the outhouse, everything seem to be a fail, doesn't it?

 

Typical leftist ploy of selective information without the big picture. Nice try but a fail.

"manufacturing employment grew only 7.7% with manufacturing payrolls virtually flat in the last 21 months of the Obama administration."
"We were told it was the new normal."

"In the first 21 months of the Trump presidency, nonfarm employment grew by a seasonally adjusted 2.6%. In the same period, manufacturing employment grew by 3.1%, reversing the trend under Obama when overall employment grew faster than employment in the manufacturing sector.

Comparing the last 21 months of the Obama administration with the first 21 months of Trump’s, shows that under Trump’s watch, more than 10 times the number of manufacturing jobs were added."





At a town hall in June 2016, President Obama famously said that some manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.” He went on to mock then-candidate Trump by saying he’d need a “magic wand” to make good on this manufacturing job promises.

 

Yep, like I said a tiny improvement in actual numbers. Hardly a massive increase considering how much it actually cost in the deficit. 3.1 % more jobs for a few trillion. You have to be kidding.

 

When one doesn't understand economics or stastics people like you are easy to fool. Still waiting for you to post a single economic metric that has changed significantly since Trump took office. Duck all you want but you aren't fooling anyone.

 

Yes dude I have a bit over a million in the market and and about the same sitting on the sidelines waiting for the Trump correction., That still doesn't make it an economic indicator. And if you are so clueless as to think it is you are way to uneducated to be in the market.

And if proof are everywhere how come you can't even post one single economic metric thst has changed direction or trajectory since Trump took office.

 

3.1% growth in maufacturing and 327000 new manufacturing jobs as of last septrmber and an additional 27000 jobs in November even with the so called trade war compared to the Obama policy of those jobs are gone for good is indeed a massive increase and your assertion that bringing those jobs back cost a few trillion is a hail Mary pass. There's a bit more going on in our economy than manufacturing jobs and attempting to blame the entirety of defecit spending on that one issue is either intentionally dishonest or pathetically uninformed.

 

Production at factories increased at a 2.3 percent annualized rate in the fourth quarter after expanding at a 3.7 percent pace in the July-September period. It increased 2.4 percent in 2018, the largest gain since 2012, after advancing 1.2 percent in 2017.

Sorry but no matter how you try to frame it a 1.2 % increase in 2017 and 2.3% for 2018 hardly classifies as massive. Is it better than zero, of course. And if you bothered to look at the link of manufacturing payroll that I posted you will see just what a small change in total manufacturing payroll this actually is.

Lets put this in terms you might understand. Suppose your stock portfolio returned 2.3 percent for last year. Bet you wouldn't claim that was a massive increase. You might even be anle to figure out that you just matched inflation.

 

sadly, they are whipper snappers, they know exactly what to say to incite hatred of the current administration, because they also know that their audience has low attention span and never read the entire article, just the headline and maybe first sentence, then they're off spewing that lie all over social media, spreading it like the disease it is...

 

Who can show that to a blind man who doesn't now what to see it?
When people think denial is evidence, they disgrace themselves. MEN do not do that. Small children do, and we forgive them because they are children. Grown ups who are children are not forgiven- they should know better.

This is common left think- demand someone prove a point to them when what they deny everything that doesn't work for them. It's one of the prime reasons we know they have no idea what they are talking about, and their argument is drivel.

You have Won nothing, Proven nothing. All you have done is embarrass yourself in the eyes of people with 20/20 vision.

 

Sorry but no matter how you spin it closing in on nearly half a million new manufacturing jobs in comparison to Obama's they ain't coming back policy is huge!

 

The standard liberal tactic in here is to attempt to transform debate into a court of law where they position themselves as judge and jury and attempt to subjugate their conservative opponent to the role of defendent. I walk away from these people as you just did and continue the generally fruitless search for a leftist willing and capable of honest debate

 

Your are the spinner. Sorry but 2-3% annual growth in manufacturing jobs isn't hugh. And no matter how you want to play it the manufacturing jobs will continue under Trump to be a small percentage of the employed. The manufacturing jobs are not ever going to get nearly to the levels they were in The past and all of Trump's bluster isn't going to change the facts.

You cannlook at wage gains or manufacturing productivity or the chart already posted and figure out that you are just making a rather desperate attempt to exaggerate the Trump effect on employment.

 

Thank you for once again making a post with no factual evidence to support your claims. And yes Inwill continue to deny your claims as long as you kerp making them without any actusl evidence to support them.

Attacking others for what are obviouly your own faults in thinking and logic fools no one but yourself. Post data to support you claims or go home to your cardboard box under the bridge.

 

You just can't accept even one obvious fact in the Trump verses Obama economy but it's undeniable that trump policy has added close to a million new manufacturing jobs that Obama had written off. Reality is not your friend here and you choose to deny and obfuscate it away in favor of what you want to believe and an alternate reality and that is the hallmark of a liberal. I myself have been in your shoes and attempted for many years to defend the indefensible but eventually I swallowed hard and had to admit to myself I was wrong and had been played for a fool. Someday you will likely reach that same conclusion. It tends to happen with time.

 

You are the one with no factual evidence. You, as most libs/lefties do-take a scrap of fact and try to make it into something more important than overwhelming facts that kill you "point" You don't discuss, you don't reason, you insult and abuse. you only want to make yourself feel manly by arguing. We are getting used to this from the dems today, it's becoming the standard max of their capacity. Whatever your handicaps, they don't excuse the attitude.

 

Like I challenged you many times. If you can find a chart of any economic metric where the direction of the chart or basic trajectory has changed significantly then you can claim Trump's policies as responsible for the current state of the economy. Otherwise without evidence you are just blowing hot air.

But what claim have I made that you would like factual evidence for? Provide post number if you can and the specific claim you would like documented. And by the way my questioning your claims requires you to prove your statements not me to prove my denial.