Women's rights?

Discussion in 'Women's Rights' started by Rathelon, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Where did I say history books....real ones anyway.
     
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    Of course, all history books are fake...conspiracy #6,765. Lol
     
  3. doombug

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    Really? So now you are bashing history books....sad.
     
  4. Ritter

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    So, why do female supermodels and female pornstars make a lot more than their male counterparts, then? If it was indeed a gendered thing, it would have to apply to all fields or else it is not a rule.

    The reason "female jobs" - generally - pay less is because they are monopolised by the public sector and because the supply of, say, kindergarten teachers is much higher than that of sewer workers (very few are prepared to apply for the latter).

    Exactly.
     
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    Learn some economics!
     
  6. Ritter

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    I have no idea what you are talking about. Life has been nothing but misery and struggle for both genders and it wasn't until very recently that we have been able to enjoy ourselves and stop fearing for our lives.

    If you think men have been any more privileged than any other group, you are historically and sociologically illeterate.
     
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    And boys and young men are paying the price no allowed to be strong males when I went to private schools I had more men teaching than women not saying it was fair but wouldn't 50/50 be better so what is wrong keeping men out the pay for teachers with the job security isn't bad compared to other careers. Its likely women keeping men out they have the power thanks to our damned ancestors handing them the vote for doing nothing, then they slowly used it. Bastards.

    In LA the women are children men would have come to a deal getting what they could a long time ago and settled focusing on their benefits and wages.
     
  8. Renee

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    I’m not the one saying they are. I was just mocking you, sorry it went over your head. Sarcasm is a high form of humor.
     
  9. Renee

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    Silly me, women were always paid the big bucks for their professions. It just appeared like they were getting less for a very important professionals like education and nursing. And perhaps learning about economics you will learn that women were excluded from high paying professions, I remember years ago when my husband went down on the trading floor on Wall Street. There was not a woman to be seen except for the secretaries. But thank goodness to the woman’s movement there are women who are not your secretary’s but who are earning big bucks. And thanks to the women’s movement the medical schools and law schools are more than half women..and women are in high paying professions. Times are a changing
     
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    Tell me how men and boys are paying the price and what does it mean I’m allowed to be “strong males”. How are women keeping men out? I’m confused where you’re coming from
     
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    How do you argue with somebody who believes that men historically men were not more privileged? No sir you are the one who is illiterate..
    Being able to vote and being able to get educated was a privilege denied to women.
    Life has been nothing but misery and struggle until just recently? I guess I didn’t realize how miserable I was LOL.
    Not only do I think men have been more privileged than any other group I would have to include white men. When you looked at the courts and the Congress and only saw white men , you don’t think they had an advantage? You seem to be living in La La Land
     
  12. Renee

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    Please stop being so ridiculous and use an extreme example. I don’t know what male supermodels get. Let’s talk about Hollywood and help male actors who was superstars were getting almost double and triple what the females were getting, but thanks to the women’s movement and activism that has changed.By the way male porn stars make a lot more than females
    You cannot make the exception the rule. There is a breed of dogs that do not bark so I guess it would be wrong to say that dogs bark. It is certainly OK to generalize but not overgeneralize, big difference
     
  13. Ritter

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    Because they were not. Breaking your back on the farm or dying in a random war is not a privilege and if you claim it is, you have some creepy form of sado-masochistic fetish.

    Your problem is that you are only looking at a very small, set minority of men belonging to the elite and generalising them as "all men". This is partially due to childish envy ("bohoo, I want cool toys too) and partially due to a highly materialistic and ungrateful view on history.

    Again, only a very small minority of men had access to the universities and the voting boths.

    What?

    Not at all. Tje one living in La La Land is you - You live in a reality where being born with a penis and white skin gives you automatic access to CEO positions, fat bank accounts and flashy cars. You ate the most sexist and racist person I have ever met.
     
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    Why is it an extreme example? I mean, I am doing the very same thing that the geniuses behind the "gender pay gap" are doing - cherry picking, generalising and ignoring common sense.

    No, that is not why it has changed.

    Nope. The demand for female pornstars is much higher since the majority of the industry's consumers are heterosexual men.

    I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
     
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    I umderstand that a golddigger wife like yourself cannot see that there is more to life than just money, but trust me when I say that there is.

    Snarky snark snark.

    That has nothing at all to do with the field of economics. :laughing:

    I bet he banged them all and has a bastard child somewhere in the country today.

    Shame on you! It really is repulsive how you degrade a woman's worth to how much money she is making where she is a nobody unless she is "making big bucks". Much Feminist, wow!

    More than half means unequal, shouldn't you regard it as a problem? I mean, isn't equality your jam? Hypocrite!
     
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    What is so funny here is that you are missing the main point. You’re saying that only some men have these privileges, that only some men went to the university ,that only some of them went to voting booths...not realizing that NO WOMEN had those privileges,
    As far as breaking backs women were breaking backs too..Let’s look at 50 or so years ago. Women were denied equal rights and men, especially white men had all the privileges. What do you think there was a woman’s movement in the 70s?
    But like a true extremist you are accusing me of believing that a penis and white skin gives automatic access to CEO positions and fat bank accounts etc. justifies calling me racist and sexist. You are one of the most petrified insecure men that I have ever met and who can’t think rationally. I feel sorry for you because you must be getting scared watching women gain so much power. Don’t be afraid we’re not going to hurt you
     
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    Lol..now I’m a gold digger wife? My husband would crack up over that one. When I married my husband we were both making the same amount of money. He was a clerk in the back office of a big Wall Street firm. But because he was very smart and white and a male he was given the opportunity to go down on the trading floor where I officially became the goldigger wife ..lol
    I wonder what makes you say things like my husband banged all the women and has a bastard child somewhere. Are you that insecure that you project your fantasies on to other men? There is something very sad about you
    You keep showing what an extremist you are. Because women now can earn big money you conclude that I think that a woman’s worth is how much money she earns, I never said any such thing. I think women who stay at home with children have a great deal of WORTH. I think women who teach teach and are servers have a great deal of worth.
    Your problem as an extremist is that you can only think in black-and-white . That’s your problem , not mine
    The fact that there are more women in medical school does not have anything to do with inequality. Boy you can only think in a little tiny box. I can’t help but feel sorry for you
     
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    Great, so then we can agree that none of these are to be seen as "male privileges", yes?

    Just my point - Life sucked for most people. Thinking anything else is just ungratefully spoiled. True privilege is being able to sit on your butt in a house on a safe street, in a prosperous nation to debate with a stranger on the other side of the world using a technology none of them has any idea of how it works.

    Spoiled college Communists decided to protest an imaginary monster.

    Did I hit a nerve? :laughing:
     
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    Actually you are wrong about female porn stars. The consumers are heterosexual man but we are not talking about the consumers we are talking about the actors. Women don’t have the problem men have sexually they can easily fake it.
     
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    Yeah, you sure sound like a golddigger in how you find reason to mention your hotshot husband in each and every post.

    Are you saying there is no wage gap?

    Shame on you for explaining his success by referring not to his brains and hardwork, but to his race. Ew. :puke:

    If Feminism has taught me anything, it would be that men, especially successful onss, are all either pigs or rapists. :nod:

    Boooooooooring. Do you just copy-paste all your posts or what?
     
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    Oh
    There you goThere you go again
    There you go again with your extremism that I mention my husband in every post. I mention my husband a lot because of the topic duh! I was married to him probably longer than you have been alive so I don’t really think I classify as a Golddigger. Unfortunately he died three months ago but being the Golddigger I am inherited everything. Sounds like you might be a little jealous because of your lack of success in life and your bitterness but I understand
    Yes my husband was smart and yes my husband was a hard worker but he always said had he not been white and a male, they wouldn’t have given him the shot on the trading floor. Without opportunity brains and hard work are meaningless. There were plenty of women as smart and hard workers and many black people who worked as hard and were is smart but they were not given the opportunity. If you want to deny that be my guest. I used to look down on the trading floor from above and the only women were secretaries and there weren’t black faces. Do you think it just changed in a vacuum? Interestingly enough many years later my husband trained a black man. This man eventually opened his own firm and asked my husband if he would help set it up. My husband had retired and told him he would help but didn’t want to be paid a lot because he didn’t intend to stay.
    I am sorry that you see feminism which is female equality as seeing all men as pigs and rapists. You certainly have issues with women as your projections are so sad.
     
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    This post is messed up on so many levels. Try making sense of it. You can't.
     
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    if women really believed in equality and equal rights; they would have no problem making appointments for free full body massage with happy ending and g-spot focus work.
     
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    And where are the all male strip clubs?
     
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    they only complain when "heavy lifting" is involved?
     
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