Generation Z Looks a Lot Like Millennials on Key Social and Political Issues

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  1. MrTLegal

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    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019...llennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/

    A new generation is getting ready to vote and they appear to be just as liberal as the Millenials (those born 1981 to 1996) on a whole host of issues. And given their personal life experiences, like the fact that 1/3rd know someone personally who uses a gender neutral term, there is little reason to think that their views will change over time. The future is bright...so long as the oldest generation doesn't **** up the world too much in the meantime.
     
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    The question will be whether or not they vote. I certainly wasn't interested in politics at that age, but I realize that politics has now become reality tv for them...so their curiosity is piqued.
     
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    A motivation that is likely being suppressed by millenials seeing the government actively pursuing policies that they oppose, which arguably would result in them believing that their opinion does not matter.

    The 2018 midterm saw an increase of the 18-29 age group compared to the 2014 midterm. And the 2016 election saw an increase of the 18-29 age group compared to the 2012 election.

    So there is some reason to think that they are more engaged and more likely to vote when compared to previous younger generations.
     
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    I predict there will be plenty of fertile ground for Socialism among the younger segment of Millennials and Generation Z, with what they have been through.

    Just one indication, teen driving is at a record low with the newest generation. They don't have the disposable income or ability to get affordable apartments that young adults had in the 80s.
    A lot of the older generation has been completely oblivious to this.
    For those who grew up during the 2007-2011 Recession, teen jobs were slim pickings. (Not just teens, many young adults too)
     
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    I have 8 grandchildren with 5 being of voting age and 3 coming up in a couple years who will qualify. I have to assume that they all are somewhat political or aware of it. 4 of them go to college and I would say they are socially liberal.3 of the other 4 are raised in liberal households and 1 conservative. Being grandpa, that I am, I enjoy stirring up the pot with them and try and find out where their heads are. Socialistic attitudes are firmly planted in their heads. 1. FREE education through college and forgiveness of all student loans. 2. FREE health care for all from birth until death. 3. Interest FREE loans on housing. 4. Elimination of ALL fossil fuels 5. The RIGHT to jail persons who are not politically correct when it comes to gender issues. 6. FREE assisted suicide on terminally ill or old people. 7. Split on abortion but believe in FREE birth control. 8. None are religious but believe in GOD. 9. Against open borders, illegal immigration but support legal immigration. 10. Support DACA. 11. They all think Trump is evil or corrupt.

    So grandpa is not really thrilled but yet he smiles after his grandkids leave because 4 are too young to vote and the 4 who are, are too lazy to register or even if they did wouldn't go to the polls because they really ,in truth, have no interest in politics. They have a real disgust for all politicians and world news at night is something they would rather not watch.
     
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    Those that produce nothing think that the producers will continue to produce wealth and hand it over to them indefinitely.
    Permanent mommy syndrome.
    Not possible.
     
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    I'm sure the Venezuelan youth felt the same.
    Now they're eating their dogs.
    Bright future
     
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    There was a 16% increase in Midterm first time voters in 2018. According to the polls that increase came primarily from younger voters. 3 out of 5 of them were voting for the Dems.

    If that trend continues the increase could be as much as 25% in 2020 but I would be satisfied with just 20% since that be more than sufficient to overcome the gerrymandering and voter suppression of the GOP.
     
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    When I discovered that my millennial family members were starting to think along liberal lines, I challenged them, taking a more conservative view (for the sake of discussion). What I found, thankfully, is that their views were well formed and informed. They rose to the challenge and could support their views confidently and handily. They seem to 'research' the news they read and hear, which was also a pleasant surprise.
     
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    And your future would be so bright, as you'd still be on the bottom of everyone else, complaining about having to work, waiting for your crumbs
     
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    So do you think they will make the mistake and have this gov't dictate the use of the plethora of new gender pronouns, forcing that upon the population? Or will they be more rational and reasonable?

    I do think though, outside of this gender deal, that both of these generations are affected by the lack of economic opportunity, that their parents and grandparents had, will affect their economic thinking. Which IMO, is a good thing. But I am not sure their educations, given to them by radical leftists is really an education, but an indoctrination by educated morons. Thing is, what occurs in academia, oozes out into american society and business over time. And if it is based upon morons, what they teach, what a mess we will see going forward.
     
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    All the more reason why teachers should be treated like PROFESSIONALS and paid accordingly.

    The rightwing attack on our public schools and their funding has consequences.

    In this instance it appears to be an unintended consequence that is causing a considerable lack of support amongst We the People for the rightwing.

    You get what you pay for, or don't, in this instance.
     
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    My wife retired from teaching in public school. Her father was the superintendent of education here where I live for 25 years. He managed 5 county schools out of a small office in the courthouse here, with one secretary. Then the federal gov't got involved and the overhead that they require demanded hundreds of employees, a huge building, just to meet the plethora of regulations and rules. So much of funding goes to this overhead. And is education better today than it was when I was in school? ha ha. Not at all. On some things, it looks like anytime the federal gov't involves itself, the outcome is far worse than before they did it. Education is one of them. Localities and states educated our kids much better at less cost.
     
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    As I recall it was Bush jr who caused all of that government overhead. You probably supported his No Child Left Behind boondoggle.
     
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    On the contrary. I am not a republican, but a democrat who left my party under clinton when it became clear where my party was headed. I supported sanders in vote and money in 16.

    We used to have classical liberal democrats once upon a time when that party was sane. Today few dems know what their ancestors were, nor even what a classical liberal is. Uneducated, IMO.
     
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    The millennials are even worried or scared of generation Z aka the Z'ers.

    Generation Z will again be the second generation to have been indoctrinated in cultural-marxism every day from birth.

    Generation Z don't date the opposite sex ? What's all of that about ?



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    A professional wouldn't entertain a student's psychological misconceptions of being a gender they are not
     
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    That older generation are 65 and older. Becoming increasingly insignificant today.
    I remember that generation boycotting Target for their bathroom policy.
    This last holiday season, Target was the #1 in sales for the season among retail stores. They largely have no influence. But they do whine the loudest.

    And the NFL was going to fold because they quit watching games because discriminated against players decided to hold some small protest.
     
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    I think the mass school shootings, especially the Stoneman-Douglass shooting, awakened them somewhat.
    And the fact that many from that school went on a nationwide tour to wake them up.
     
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    Sounds like a well informed group of grandkids there.
    They are spot on, on most every issue.
    I am not quite to your age, but I've seen it with every grandparent generation, they never get the grandkids generation. I saw it with my grandparents, my parents with their grandkids, and I hope not to repeat that. For those new generations will do just fine when they get to run the world.
     
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    To that generation, it won't be considered forced upon. Since it was basically a part of their vocabulary from their beginning of learning.
    It's only the stiff conservative older generation that hates change and wants things to be the way they were when they were the youth of the world.

    I am in the older category, and I don't get all hot and bothered if one wants to be called a he, if born without a penis.
    I am not any expert to know what they feel as a person.
    Human biology and brainwork is way beyond my skill level.
     
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    It's got to be better.
    It is now open to all physical type of disable people. As far back as the 1980s, that wasn't the case.
    So, IMO, the focus for some time was to make buildings etc, more accessible to all people and all type of disabled people.

    And, hasn't the RW be gutting funding to public education every chance they get?
    Teachers should not have to supply pencils for their classrooms.
     
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    Clinton sold working Americans out when he joined the R party with NAFTA.
     
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    I agree they were taught to use the pronouns, and will, some of them, use it naturally, being conditioned to do that as a process of growing up. I was not talking about that though. There was a move in canada to force the use of such terms upon their population, and that is what I was referring to. Forced and enforced speech is not free speech.

    I am in the older category as well, so these 70 odd new pronouns appears to be utter nonsense to me. But I could not care less if people willingly use them, just don't force others to use them.
     
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    More bad news for Republicans. On college campuses to come out as a Trump supporter is a social death sentence.
     

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