My thread in memory of Aiia Maasarwe and many others.

Many tears have flown for Aiisa, and those defenceless women before her who have been murdered by violent men. Forgive me for not listing them...there are too many..
My take on male violence towards women will be controversial, but I feel I am pretty
close to the mark.....
Four factors need to be considered by our politicians.
a) Excessive alcohol consumption
b) Excessive gambling
c) Insufficient family money caused by a) and b)
d) The Family Law Act, 1977.

No-one needs a lecture on excessive alcohol consumption...when theres a pub on every corner, alcohol will be consumed excessively. Therefore availability is the problem..
Not just excessive consumption and an inability to tell when enough is enough.
The availability has to be reduced dramatically. But it wont be, because state governments
will tell us that they need the liquor tax to balance the books.

Of course, if we move onto excessive gambling, once again, availability is the problem.
When I saw gambling being introduced for sports I knew there would be a serious problem.
No more would old mate just watch the footy or the cricket on the box...no... we would now have to have ten or twenty, or fifty dollars on the first try scorer, or the high bat in the cricket....money obviously coming out of housekeeping...and I havent even touched the pokies yet...self explanatory...they are evil, and once again poker machine tax is needed
by all governments....so they say....
I read some time ago, and I will stand corrected if Im wrong, that Victorias total revenue was made up with 90% liquor and gambling taxes.....90%...can you believe that....
What the figures are for the other states...I dont know.

Which brings me to the Family Law Act....oh yes...the Family Law Act 1977
I was fortunate enough to be studying Family Law when this pathetic Act was passed.
Briefly, this is how it works.....
Under the superseded Matrimonial Causes Act, a couple had to be separated for two years before applying for a divorce. They also had to prove fault by the other party, eg physical abuse, mental cruelty...etc..there was a long list of faults...
Then along comes Sir Henry Bolte whose brainchild was the FL Act...which would
allow couples to divorce after twelve months, without proving fault.
All that was needed was for the parties to agree that the marriage had broken down
completely, and trot along to a bit of mediation, and bobs your uncle...youre divorced.....

Wait a minute........

What about the kids Henry.....
I can remember Bolte dancing around questions regarding the kids, preferring to concentrate on the benefits that women would receive, getting out of an abusive marriage....
No doubt he got a lot of female votes those days...

Fast forward to 2019....... 42 years later.....hows that workin for ya Henry....I do believe that we still have a domestic violence problem...I see that we have women being murdered almost on a daily basis.........
And indeed...what about the kids....how many are now stuck in a family with a step
parent that belts the crap out of you......google Daniel Valerio...I almost cried when I saw a photo of this poor little boy, with black eyes, standing there holding his teddy in one hand....
He died in 1990 of systematic and prolonged physical and mental torture.....in other words he was kicked and punched to death. I also read somewhere that he was thrown across the floor into a wall like a football......he was 2 years old.....

50% of marriages now fail in Australia....obviously the Family Law Act isnt working....

Do politicians really care....no they dont...otherwise something would have been done by now..... in another example....how many reports, surveys and Royal Commissions will we have to have into Aged Care Homes...thats an example of how governments dont really care about the people.....
Christ, they cant even get it right when it comes to parole and bail....and sentencing......
And people say...why are you so angry billy........

RIP Aiia......somehow...I dont think you will be the last........

 

It is *me me me*, and missing ethics and values.
Not only parents are to blame, but society as such.
We are all guilty....
Reg.

 

Yes, but society lives under legislation created by politicians...and politicians allow liquor outlets and gambling on two flies crawling up the wall to obtain more taxes.....
Politicians create poor legislation which we have to live under...
I dont think we can just blame society for societies problems...they are forced upon us by our leaders...
What we have, many people would argue, is a cultural problem...a culture of gambling and boozing...and its enabled by the governments which rule us....I know what youre about to say...no one is forced to drink or gamble...but human nature takes over and we do......because we can...
Imagine the furore if schoolies week was cancelled...no more piss or drugs for the kids....
and no income for the commercial premises that rub their hands together every time schoolies
is on........
Did you know that from one end of the gold coast to the other its an alcohol free zone...on the beach that is....
No alcohol...but the Police simply baby sit the crowds to ensure no disturbances occur....
........in accordance with directions from politicians of course.....
Make no mistake, our culture is shaped by our leaders.......

 

Are you an Aussie?

 

Yes

 

Oh, I thought Mn. USA.

 

How remiss of me.....I left out the link....

 

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/01/...h-place-on-foreign-affairs-committee#comments
You may even want to discuss the issue with the poster, whose email address is above his comment....

 

I wonder whether other western countries with similar legislation have the same problem?
We had a Swiss guy staying next door for quite a while and according to him, the fighting is more distinct in our country than in central Europe. Is he right or wrong, or only ************ me, I don't know.
But I did travel Europe some time ago and never saw a single fight. Our local pub is a different place all together, after 10pm you would only enter with a helmet.
Yes you are right, it certainly has to do with drugs/alcohol, but there is more to it. A fight is still acceptable in our country, that's what men do. How would you want to change this neanderthal stand?
Reg.

 

My god what an "all over the shop" thread. It was actually hijacked by the OP who started the thread about the murder of a student and within a paragraph had switched it to domestic violence. Aiia's murder has absolutely nothing to do with domestic violence.
Even less to do with Sir HenryBolte or government legislation about divorce.

I'm not saying the other topic is wrong just nothing to do with the threads topic.

 

Less alcohol means less fights...how many times do you walk down the street during the day, and see the fights you would see at say 9/10/11pm...and later....
I recollect when I was young, pubs shut at 10 and if you wanted to keep drinking, you went to a club....and the club would close at 11 and no fights...but nowadays...you can be a pisshead all nite...and the government loves you...because of the liquor tax.....would they reduce closing times in 2019 back to those days in an attempt to make people safe at nite..and maybe change our culture just a little...no fuking way....
We then ask the question so why does the government need the liquor tax...well maybe to buy 100 warplanes which we dont need...and the F35s are a piece of sh1t....why do you think the US duck shoved them to us...because our defence minister at the time was a sucker and a moron...
Of course the government wont admit that they fuked up....but the peons still have to pay for these pieces of sh1t with liquor and gambling taxes.....
Do some googling and youll see the problems that this "aircraft" encounters...
I read somewhere that they cant even go out in the rain, due to the possibility of lightning strikes....
Whoa....stop the war lads....its raining......ffs
BTW was the accused effected by alcohol when he committed the rape/murder...
Probably...does alcohol play a part in murders/rapes/violence towards women...probably...would less alcohol maybe, just maybe change our culture...maybe..just maybe...the FL Act was introduce to allow women to get out of a violent marriage quicker....it hasnt worked..there is still violence ...its all linked...but some of us refuse to see it...they just want to criticise, without offering any solution....

 

And who would imagine that YOU would seize upon an opportunity to criticize me....

Violence against women is violence...whether it be domestic violence, or violence in the street....
If we can reduce domestic violence and violence against women generally we might just make some progress...but then again our pisshead culture may still continue...
Cant you see ffs..that the two go hand in hand...violence against women in the streets and violence against women in a domestic situation.....cant you see that....you disappoint me...
You criticise the thread....oh Im surprised...but offer no solution.....
Why dont YOU start a thread from time to time so I can criticise the sh1t out of it......

 

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I have to wonder; just how low can we go??? Notwithstanding the previous, violence against women has suffered terribly when you look at societal attitudes. I would like to take this moment to point out that this poor lass was not the first victim in this area but she appears to be a catalyst for change.

Unfortunately, changing the ideals of respect to not only women but fellow human beings has taken huge step back when you have politicians who for expedience sake will comment and vote for their jobs rather than hold repugnant (my word for the month) acts and people to account.

I fear, under a leadership of Shorten and Wong any effort to curb and stop violence against women and domestic violence of any description will be lost to another decade or two of selfish populist placation rather than decent policy.

 

Aiia Maasarwe,Eurydice Dixon, Masa Vukotic and Jill Meagher.
When will the change come?

 

The only time a change will come is when the following occurs:
a) all licensed premises close at 12 midnight.
b) gambling on all sports events in Australia and overseas is banned.
c) maximum amount of alcohol purchased from a liquor store is a six pack
d) an establishment of a sex offenders register.....
e) all poker machines are banned
f) mandatory sentencing is introduced in all states for all felonies, with no right of appeal, and no
non parole period......
Reminds me of a tough magistrate many years ago in Wollongong named Jim Towns...
The locals had a saying..."drive carefully and see our city...drive badly and see our Towns..."
Of course he was around before the government decided on the rehabilitation approach for crims
instead of punishment...slap on the wrist crap instead of a gaol term....
Wollongong, whilst he was on the bench, was a very safe place....of course in those days
the pubs close at 10 etc.....
Will this happen...... no...not until hell freezes over......

 

Did I just hear a young lass in a protest march say they were protesting about domestic violence
against women as well as the murder of Aiia...they cant do that...its got nothing to do with Aiia's death......pft...
Protest marches all over Australia...and not a bloody word from any politician.....oh wait....
theyre probably all at the tennis....must have snuck in with the humans.....

 

You have to remember, some people would rather score points than address issues. Unfortunately, as I said, these people will simply retard this issue and continue to play petty politics.

 

What do poker machines have to do with it?

 

And , how about education of kids that you don't beat up women or rape them to prove you're a big man?

 

Well you see darlin...poker machines are gambling...and if old mate loses half his pay...or worse
thru the pokies..whilst having a skinful....he just might come home and belt the crap out of his missus.....
....ya folla.....

 

Well of course...that is a given...but that is based on the assumption that the parents are competent....
...definitely worthy of g)

 

Yep,if that happens, then all the other stuff is unnecessary.

 

My uncle was a pisshead, and put a small fortune thru the pokies and his family suffered...
He was also belligerent, obnoxious and abusive after he'd had a session on the piss...Ive seen it first hand....
Are you telling me that we dont need to reduce alcohol consumption, excessive gambling,
etc...are you telling me that all our pisshead gambling neanderthals need is to be told by their parents how to treat women...and everything will be fine......gimme a break....

 

Ha,
read that some are even suggesting it gets worse under Labor. Can't get worse, I think.
Just imagine, Labor is voted in and hopefully turn against the Church.
Why?
The Church is still backed by Libs/Nationals and we all know how clerics love kids.....
Different kind of violence, still despicable.
Reg.