My first venture into 'political' forums

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The expulsion was reversed 350 years later and England has a great many successful Jews across many varied professions. Peter Sellers and Steven Fry are well known here in the States but their religious affiliation is not. This applies to a great many English Jews who do not openly proclaim their faith.
     
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    Then why single out Alvin York for special attention? If it doesn't matter whether you kill one person or a million, all are equally guilty - even those who send men and women off to fight in wars or who simply support the war effort in any way from the 'home front' are guilty by default. For that matter even those who simply acquiesce to the war are guilty.

    If the world is crime scene then we are all both victims and criminals.
     
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    Yes, as I pointed out, "It is hard to reverse ethnic cleansing".
     
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    I didn't single out York. I merely replied to a post singling him out.

    I understand self defense as a good reason for killing someone who is trying to kill you as long as they are the aggresor and not yourself.
     
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    War is common and often legal. York apparently only killed enemy combatants, and captured many more.
    As warriors go, York, a pacifist objector, appears to have been rather humane in his treatment of his enemy.

    Beyond when it comes to killing masses of human beings war is not the worst threat that we face.
     
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    More civilians get killed during wars than military warriors.
     
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    It might be little known that he is ethnically Jewish but it is pretty well known that he is an atheist.
     
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    In fact, many more civilians are systematically murdered by their own governments in times of "peace" than during all modern wars combined.

    "… from 1900 to 1987 governments MURDERED almost *170* MILLION people ... far exceeds the 34.4 million battle deaths ... from all...wars fought during the same period.... democratic governments were responsible for only about one percent of the twentieth century's death toll from democide...." The Atlantic Monthly, "The World In Numbers," "Murder By The State," Vol. 292 NO. #4, 11/20. (emphasis mine)
    The Atlantic's source: "Rummels books on the subject - particularly "Death By Government" (1994) and "Statistics of Democide" (1997).
     
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    jeeze, it's a wonder we're not all dead. with trump we may soon be dead.
     
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    Sellers did not live for very long after Being There hit the theaters. ;-)

     
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    But the amphibious assault at Gallipoli was a complete disaster.

    After Gallipoli it was believed that there would never be another amphibious assault attempted by any military in the future.

    But the U.S. Marine Corps saw it differently.

    Lessons learned at Gallipoli...GET THE **** OF THE BEACH IF YOU WANT TO LIVE !
     
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    Sgt. Alvin York represented the average American and what the average American could do when you put a 03-Springfield in their hands.
     
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    Just imagine what he could have done with a machine gun!:machinegun:
     
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    York, apparently managed to get over 100 prisoners safely off the battlefield. Machine gunners don't do that.

    WW I was the pits for infantry - literally. And when they were out of the pits of that hell it was worse.
    I do not know how those who survived endured it.
     
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    Alvin York like most Americans was a rifle expert. "One shot...One kill."

    Alvin York was also armed with probably the most accurate long range infantry rifle to ever go to war, the 03-Springfield rifle.
     
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    I miss the henry repeating rifle too. . Sigh! They don't make em like they used to.
     
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    Welcome Monash. A Texan here, seems most Texans have a lot in common with most Aussies. 25 years a cop... impressive.. I sometime follow real crime shows.. including a few based in Australia.
     
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    do yourself a favor.. go back to what you were doing now

    you know how people wiggle their finger between their lips.. well I am one of them now
     
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    Perhaps you can enlighten us with your expert knowledge on these areas. Most of us are just amateurs posting random thoughts.
     
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    The extremists are conspiracy theorists and trolls, so it's more likely they will annoy you than the other way around.

    That said, welcome and have fun :D
     
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    'Enlighten' would, I think be a step too far. More than happy to field questions but given the differences in legislation, procedures and practice across the world I doubt I I can do more than provide some insight on various topics relating to Policing. That said ask away and if I think I can contribute something constructive to a debate I will. :D
     
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    Well you can't really give up without a fight can you?
     
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    I don't really think 'impressive' is the right word. We are talking about different Policing environments after all. For all that Texas and Aus have the whole 'wide open spaces/independent living' vibe going on but there are still a big difference in historical and social perspectives, legislation/police powers and gun culture. Also as a detective working from an office for most of my career I don't have anywhere near the the uniformed 'street' policing experience of most American City/County LEO's. Most of my work is reactive i.e. a file lands on my desk and I work it up to into brief of evidence with my Team. I'm not doing proactive Policing - doing a shift on the streets. Doesn't mean haven't I don't get out there and kicked in doors etc on occasion, just that I don't have anywhere near the field hours of street cops. I 'dips me lid' to them.

    As for real crime shows, mostly they are about murders, something I've only had peripheral involvement in. They can be done well but in a lot of them quite frankly the simplifications, leaps to judgement and self appointed 'experts' involved tend to put my teeth on edge. So I don't watch a lot of them.
     
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    Monash commanded a Brigade at the Gallipoli landings, he was not in charge or even heavily involved in the overall planning for the operation. However his efficiency and dedication had already caught the attention of senior British Commanders during the build-up period for the operation in Egypt. He was also one of the few senior officers who came out of the debacle with his reputation enhanced rather than diminished due the competence and effectiveness of the units under his command.

    He actually came into his own later on the Western Front when he was placed in charge of Corps level formations. In fact historians today generally recognize Generals Curry and Monash as the two best commanders on the Western Front with the Australian and Canadian troops under their command being the most effective combat units in the British forces.

    Finally while on paper the Marine Corps was supposedly the ideal force for this kind of operation they didn't actually get much in the way of experience in mounting large scale amphibious landings while under fire until the outbreak of WWII. And if I remember correctly the first couple large scale landings they did try were right ****-ups as well. The Corps, like everybody else had to learn (or re-learn) by doing.
     
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    oh.. ok.. Well I'm still a Texan and to keep a stereotype going.. I'll say we are an impressive bunch.
     

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