The authors of the new testament were convinced that Jesus would return in their lifetime. The apostles were confident that Jesus would return in their lifetime. I am currently left to believe that every generation not only has sufficient biblical and situational evidence that Jesus will return in their lifetimes but that each successive generation has more biblical and situational evidence that Jesus will return in their lifetime than the generations before them. Our generation has the most biblical and situational evidence that Jesus will return in our lifetime, and the next generation will have even more. I plan of dying for the same reason that I'm not afraid of lightening. I plan on dying for the same reason that I don't play the lottery. I plan on dying because the odds are very much in favor of my death. If I'm raptured, so be it. I'll go in the second wave. The dead in Christ rise first.
What possess one to take the time to make such a post. Is being rude the only alternative you can see to being invisible? A wise man never parades his disassociations. And a grown man doesn't use emojis.
If you think they have had sufficient evidence, and yet consistently been wrong, isn't the conclusion that you have misunderstood what kind of evidence is sufficient?
The author of revelation said it would happen soon , within a generation ... 40 years after the crucifixion.
Why not? For 2000 years, maybe 30 years per generation, let's say 60 generations. Is that not experimental repeatability that whatever evidence you allude to does not actually indicate that it is so? What is your definition of evidence, if it is not a reason to believe that it is so (or a reason to believe that something is so, even though it turns out not to be)?
I see your point and your correct , We all who Trust in Christ for Salvation see our world in the book of Revelation and expect for his promised return in our Lifetime.
Revelation is very clear that it will happen soon within a generation (40 years) from the crucifixion.
Maybe, but what good is shouting right or wrong at one another? It's more interesting to see how the lines of thought go.
Who is shouting? I merely asked a question of you yet you apparently refuse to think about any other possibility than that which you propose.
Try reading what I said again. I did not say anything was false, only that you refuse to consider anything that does not match what you claim.
Maybe you didn't claim it, but you suggested it. I don't know which claim of mine you're referring to. I've mostly asked questions without claims.
Now you are a mind reader, able to infer with 100% accuracy what others are thinking or mean? You should make yourself available to the authorities with this ability, what with never being wrong. As to which claim, go back and read my posts, since you obviously refuse to read them the first time. Stop hiding behind your claim of "only asking questions" yet attempting to deny others the same ability. You are exposing a strain of hypocrisy in yourself by doin this.
I am referring to issues of timing. Whether or not it's going to happen at all involves ideas to be sure, but whether or not it's going to happen involves much more than just ideas. That's a different subject. That's a matter of faith. This is more of an intermural issue. This would involve those who emotionally trust and willfully identify with the same thing but differ in our understandings of it. Perhaps I should elaborate. When I write "understanding" I am referring to knowing what to do with what is known. When I write "knowledge" I am referring to what one is currently left to believe.
Could you elaborate on the first bit instead please? Does it matter that something is an issue of timing? You seem to place some specific meaning in the word idea that I am not aware of.
There is a good deal of speculation about the timing of Christ's return among those who are left to believe that He will return.
That's not what my comment is about though, I'm contesting your claim that people in the past have had sufficient evidence to believe something even though they've consistently been incorrect.
Yes, it always seems to be just on the horizon, just wait a little while longer. This is like the carrot that those in power seem to always dangle in front of those naïve enough to believe it in the first place. Hence, forty years has morphed into over two thousand years and still waiting. Seems silly on the face of it to still want to believe in waiting, at least to me.
I mean, it certainly looked like a suggestion to me. Then again, I still don't know which claim you're referring to. The only claim I made in the post you quoted is that 2000 over 30 is 60 (rounded pretty heavily, but not in my favour, so I don't see it as a problem). I'm not sure if it is a claim of mine or someone else you were suggesting was false. You seem not super keen on telling me.
I don't feel the need to do your homework for you, since you seem intent not doing it for yourself. Always easier (for you) to just keep making statements and denying any statement that challenges your assertions. Then, again, you look in your crystal ball to see what others are claiming, especially if you can make it seem to be in your favor. Continually stating "facts" that back up your position while claiming that this is not what you are doing is beneath you.
Could have but didn't is different from could not have. I agree with those in the past that it could have. I agree with those now who say that it could. Because the temperature is below freezing, it could snow. If there are the right type of clouds, it's even more likely. The conditions for Christ's return have been in place for a long time, and they are improving with every generation.
