Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. Gorgeous George

    Gorgeous George Well-Known Member

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    trump says he is going to declare a national emergency.

    This scares the hell out of me. It sounds like nazi tactics.
     
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    Nah, GG, it is not nazi tactics. The original law was passed because of the oil crisis emergency. A NRE has to be pinpoint spotted to an alleged emergency, in this case the one in Trump and his followers' heads.
     
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    Yeah it's absolutely the same.

    I mean we've only had 58 since 1976 and 31 of them are still in place, but sure, Nazism.
     
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    My guess is that his attempt to establish a 'national emergency' won't make it thru the courts but he will be showing his dog pound that he fought the system to the very end.
     
  6. Gorgeous George

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    Even people in his own party think it's a bad idea.

    Let him make a fool of himself again.:banana:
     
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    I see you don't understand sarcasm, or the point of what I said.

    If you had, you certainly wouldn't have clicked "like".

    You may want to remove that.
     
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    There are ~ 30 national emergencies currently in effect. I don’t see any storm troopers around.
     
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    It is an attempt to do an end run around the U.S.CONSTITUTION which granted the exclusive right to TAX AND SPEND to the CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES!!!Not the president.
     
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    Bush and Obama did it 14 times.
     
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    Protecting our borders is also in the constitution.
     
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    You mean Obama lied about the border crisis?
     
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    61falcon, Congress gave the POTUS the right to do it in Carter's term, and SCOTUS affirmed it.
     
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    What Trump is doing is Constitutional as ruled by the SCOTUS. Attempts by the left to prevent securing the southern border with the objective to protect US citizens will be a political gift to the Trump 2020 campaign.
     
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    Theres 30 active National Emergencies in effect now, from as far back as the Carter Admin.

    One of them, declared by Clinton and maintained by Bush, Obama and Trump, was to reduce illegal immigration from Cuba.

    Another, declared by Trump, was to prevent domestic election meddling by foreign interests.

    Are you in Martial Law now?
     
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    No, AFM, it won't, because the majority of American does not want a Trumpian wall.
     
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    An amendment is needed to restrict the ability of Congress to delegate its constitutional powers to other branches. No more War Powers act, no more kooky national emergencies, they should have a vote for each instance and suffer the wrath of the voting public if they get it wrong.
     
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    Cite where, please.
     
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    The ones you don't see are the ones you need to worry about.;)
     
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    Wow, Bill Clinton declared 17 National Emergencies, Obama declared 12. Now the Dims dead set against it. Who'd a thunk it?
     
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    Who the hell is running the pop stand?
     
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    I was always against it, regardless of party.
     
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    Based on what ?? Some bogus polling which also predicted a Hillary landslide ?? Americans want to be protected. Trump understands that whilst the D party does not.
     
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    You mean the one’s in black with face masks ??
     
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    As if there doesn't exist a "True" existential threat, beating a door path to your address in the form of - crime, rape, hard drugs, fraud etc. ad infinitum; U can't be serious...
     

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