Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

It was done 42 times by previous presidents starting with jimmy carter and up through obama

 

Ok, while we're at it, we can enforce speed limits with rocket launchers?

 

Well, first you can never compare him to real presidents. That being said, that isn't an argument. He can declare an emergency, but it's still just a lie. And it won't work. He doesn't really care either.

 

Dont be hysterical

No one is firing rockets at illegal aliens

 

I thought you were going to do whatever it takes?

 

Its still a tool that every president has

The president decides when a national emergency exists

And trump is the president

 

Everything within the law

if the illegals fire rockets ar our soldiers defending the border...

But the drug cartels would never do thst, huh?

 

Yes, but it's still just a lie that will die. You can't argue that it's an emergency that takes 10 years to fix. On top of that, he doesn't really even want a wall, just the fight.

 

Well ok. So torturing children is ok with you, where is the line?

 

We dont torture illegal alien children

 

That's not true. But let's say you believed reality. Do you have a problem with torturing illegal children?

 

We dont torture illegal alien children

So there is your answer

 

Would torturing children be ok to discourage illegals?

 

Not quite accurate

If Trump's unilateral power's as president are limited under federal law, then so too are our future presidents. However, if they are not limited, then neither are our future presidents. It's not a matter of what they would do, but what they are legally allowed to do. The question is does the president hold the authority to make such a unilateral decision, so long as he calls it a national emergency?

It is the answer to this question that determines whether or not a Democrat (or any political party) president could make such a unilateral decision.

 

Lol, what the hell are you talking about. No one tortures children except the human traffickers that this wall will help stop. If you do not support the wall, then you support the torture of children and selling them Into sexual slavery.

 

We dont torture children

 

Sorry, but you're not going to try and write your own debate rules. And you don't get to move the goalposts either.

 

Yes, it is those of us who see that this could well be the constitution crisis that defines the ultimate survival of democracy and freedom in American, those who see this whole thing as a reality show staged for their entertainment. They actually think that their fuhrer can usurp the Constitution to try and "win" the political battle he lost last December 11th, and that everything will go on as before. To them, it's just another day on cable TV.

The reactionary talk radio right has shown little understanding of American government or of our institutions.

Out of one side of their mouths, they have yelled about Presidential overreach, the "rule of law" (which clearly means nothing to them), freedom (which they think can be defended by having a loaded .38 in the kitchen drawer), and the Constitution.

And yet, they are so enamored of the cult of personality that surrounds their tinpot fuhrer, that they will gladly pitch the Constitution and all the ideals that form the basis of American government over the side. And do so loudly and with enthusiasm.

It doesn't matter to them that their hero has tried to subvert both the rule of law and the Constitution on a routine basis.

I am not particularly afraid of Donald Trump. He is a spoiled rich little punk who acts like a fifth grade bully on the world and national stage.

His defeat on his wall is the end of any hope that Trump can get any major piece of legislation through Congress.

So, now, he's going to play the dictator. And judging by the talking points the Fox news models were yammering about last night, they're in full support of Trump trying to usurp Constitutional authority.

Trump doesn't understand or care about politics. His disasterous mismanagement of his made up "wall" crisis, and the collateral damage it is still inflicting are clear indications of his political incompetence.

He will be gone.

But if the dangerous precidents he is trying to set now, will be the tools for some future demogogue, who may very well be skilled, experienced, and smart enough to seize power.

The last two years have made it very clear, that this will almost certainly come from the far right (as facist dictators always have), and that the right wing mob will cheer the death of democracy every step of the way.

Trump also provides a roadmap for co opting the media, cozying up to the bankers and oil men (who finance much of the GOP), and demonstrate the degree to which conservative politicians are willing to sell out democracy for a little political power.

 

Obama and Clinton both declared emergencies Clinton 18 if them. So you brought up gun violence, what emergency money do you want spent on it?

 

Why not? We've tortured adults.

 

But Congress could authorize it.

 

We dont torture children

 

But Congress could authorize it. Where does all that money go and money earned from sale of confiscated assets?

 

Come back to reality.

Presidents have declared emergencies 59 times since 1976 ...
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8 hours ago · No modern president has used a national emergency to appropriate ... President Bill Clinton was the most prolific user of national emergencies. ... to block the import of rough diamonds …

 

51% against and now up to 46% for the wall funding. Isn't extremely unpopular. Well.....only in leftists minds, huh? Especially the lefts Hacks, Right?