Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Bags of drugs can be thrown over a wall in two seconds to your partner
     
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    Who said anything about collusion? Most of the dossier has been vetted with the prostitutes peeing on the bed being the exception.
     
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    Ever heard of national security?
     
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    The dossier is a complete fabrication.
     
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    No its not. It is a collection of intelligence reports.
     
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    LOL, sure it has. Name all the things that are vetted other than just names of people that exist.
     
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    From Russian intelligence, right? So who did the colluding?
     
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    Sure they could. They could also use tee shirt launchers. Got any examples of that actually happening.
     
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    That's too funny. Intelligence reports from who ?? And what has been shown to be true ?? Nothing. And this fabrication claimed to be from Russian intelligence paid for by the Democratic Party with no vetting and no disclosure on who paid for the dossier to the FISA court judge is the basis for the FBI to spy on the Trump campaign. And there is no criminal conspiracy in that ??
     
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    Intelligence picks up information from MANY sources. Everything in the dossier has been vetted by separate European intelligence agencies with the exception of the prostitutes peeing on the bed.
     
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    Does it? Why? Do you suppose that not being attacked by vicious illegal criminals is something to be frightened about?
     
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    That’s complete BS.
     
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    Yo Gorgeous, going Godwin is a sure fire way to be ignored here. Might want to consult others on the best way to push Progressive memes while not vaporizing your credibility.
     
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    Not even close to martial law.
     
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    Well, between fifteen and thirty million foreigners have entered our country illegally, with more coming by the thousands. And our Congress refuses to enforce the law to stop it. In fact, their districts are granting sanctuary in spite of the costs and crimes and general burden to the nation. I'd say that's scary. But you think addressing it is scary. Maybe you need to re-sort your judgment.
     
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    The story you link to is outdated. The data it is using is at least four years old and some of it is older. Nobody disagrees that Mexico is where the drugs come from. The point is that smuggling has had to shift routes and methods. The hard drugs and the large quantities are being found in commercial shipping and in private vehicles. That is at ports of entry, right now, today.

    As opposed to years ago.
     
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    Who said this "As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them. They hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over."

    And we also have this:
    A woman was arrested and six bundles of meth were confiscated by Border Patrol agents early Thursday morning, according to US Customs and Border Protection.

    CBP said that at approximately 4:41 a.m. agents observed a woman tossing packages over the International Boundary Fence east of the Calexico Port of Entry.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-drugs-landing-on-peoples-heads-a7842416.html
     
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    Same place health care is
     
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    For note: nearly all previous National Emergencies vman is citing here were either sanctions on foreign entities (governments, terrorist groups, organized crime) or due to major natural disasters.
     
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    ^ Loves the rule of law. Thinks it's "no big deal" to steal money from actual budgeted items to fund a fake emergency.
     
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    Yes, because they're all exactly the same.
     
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    Ah, pulling out the well worn nazi card, from the deck. ha ha

    But given that we are at a weird place, where the dems want less beds, so that our immigration system will have to turn these illegals loose into america, in their overt attempt to keep the sieve open, for illegals, going into the future, if this isn't an emergency, then few things are. The lack of a sufficient immigration system, on purpose, by both parties is one helluva emergency, and it has to be fixed. 40 odd years since the amnesty of the 80s and we have seen millions flood in and remain. Emergency? A disaster of the rule of law? A mockery of any immigration system? Damned right, and it just ain't hard to discern this reality.
     
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    One example ?? That’s too funny.

    Your UK source is a joke.
     
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    It was a landslide against Trump, AFM.

    SEVENTEEN MILLION MORE voted against DJT than for him. Of that number, about three million more voted for Clinton than DJT.

    He barely slid in to office because of the quirks of EC.
     
  25. truth and justice

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    You missed answering the question so here it is again: Who said this? "As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them. They hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over."

    Oh, I gave you the wrong link too:
    https://www.kyma.com/news/cbp-woman-arrested-drugs-thrown-over-border-fence/965112562

    Is that source a joke too? No doubt that you will ignore this link too as clearly you did not bother to look at the other link I gave
     
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