Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. vman12

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    No, you can go back to blaming everyone besides the person who took the loan if you'd like.

    You can tell us how it's someone else's fault that people don't pay their bills or save money.
     
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    The money belonged to the Iranian people.

    Trump’s Favorite Iran-Obama Cash Story, Still Bogus No ...

    Trump pulls out of the Iran nuclear deal, what happens next? U.S. President Donald Trump likes to tell a story about the U.S. paying out billions of dollars to Iran as part of the multinational deal freezing its nuclear program and easing sanctions against it. What he doesn’t say is that most of that money was Iran’s to begin with.

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/iran/trump-s-iran-cash-story-oft-told-still-bogus-1.6032057
     
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    Trump’s Favorite Iran-Obama Cash Story, Still Bogus No ...

    Trump pulls out of the Iran nuclear deal, what happens next? U.S. President Donald Trump likes to tell a story about the U.S. paying out billions of dollars to Iran as part of the multinational deal freezing its nuclear program and easing sanctions against it. What he doesn’t say is that most of that money was Iran’s to begin with.

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/iran/trump-s-iran-cash-story-oft-told-still-bogus-1.6032057
     
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    Why not just give them the same pass you give Trump? Or does holding a uniform standard physically hurt a hypocrite like yourself?
     
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    "Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?"

    don't give trump any ideas, the man is crazy enough to declare martial law and start rounding up people that do not support him
     
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    The emergency is self evident to those who are intellectually honest. Trump will repurpose funds to construct a border wall to address this emergency.
     
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    That's a conclusion without any support, my fabricating friend.

    And a terrible attempt at an analogy.

    The assets were frozen, and you're suggesting that a subsequent government loses any claim to the frozen assets. You'd think there'd be some sort of authority for that proposition instead of it just being plucked out of thin air.
     
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    and Trump will never make another deal with Iran, we had a deal, could of added to it... now we have nothing and America's "Word" means less around the world because of Trump

    if a country breaks a deal with us... they just point to Iran.... we did it too
     
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    Funny stuff. Keep up the comedy.
     
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    What I 'wanted' is irrelevant, I am only saying what happened. It is a matter of historical fact, and I was right. You were wrong.
     
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    Thank God. You can’t negotiate with theocrats.
     
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    we had a deal, no reason for us to be the ones to break it.. we gave our word and we broke it.. Sad!
     
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    Where are these "recommendations"?
     
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    No need for catapults, because the design allows them to pass bricks of heroin through the slats in the wall.
     
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    The actual transfers and benefits Iran received have nothing to do with Trump.
     
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    if only the Trump reality show was not real life, you literally could not make this Administration up as no one woudl of believed you
     
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    Trump is like you.. His story about the money is bogus.

    The rest relates to an old debt the U.S. had with Iran.

    The numbers and some details change in his (Trump's) retelling — dating back to the 2016 campaign — but his bottom line is always the same: The Obama administration was hoodwinked into giving Iran all that money, some of it in a huge and hidden bundle of cash.
     
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    You feel it is constitutional because it is your guy and his agenda. You would not feel it was constutional if it were not your guy and was not your agenda.

    Fact is... the word “emergency” is open to interpretation. Usually an emergency has some sort of rather abrupt beginning and some sort of immediately alarming impacts that require urgent action... or an action that is outside the existing legal framework. None of previous emergencies have been used to circumvent normal constutionally mandated congressional funding processes.

    It is amazing to me that several forum members have pointed out that previous presidents have used these emergency powers... but these posters are either unaware, or chose to disregard the issues being addressed in those previous declarations.... namely the fact that NONE of those previous declarations were used to circumvent cogresses constitutionally mandated role in making funding decisions


     
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    Trump is like you.. His story about the money is bogus.

    The rest relates to an old debt the U.S. had with Iran.

    The numbers and some details change in his {Trump's) retelling — dating back to the 2016 campaign — but his bottom line is always the same: The Obama administration was hoodwinked into giving Iran all that money, some of it in a huge and hidden bundle of cash.
     
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    The design which allows border patrol agents to see through it as the requested will have a screen to prevent that as required. It’s amazing how dense people can be.
     
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    Border crossings are down 75% from the peak, so now its an emergency.
     
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    when dems take over they can use it to get funding they want too, that is if republicans are actually stupid enough to let him get away with it, which I am betting they will not
     
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    It is Constitutional.
     
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    real National Emergencies vs this fake Trump Emergency - Sad!
     
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    The D’s are going to do this anyway. Look what Harry Reid did.
     

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