The atomic bombs dropped in WW2 were unecessary.

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  1. miketx

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    Democrat revisionists never stop attacking the USA.
     
  2. unkotare

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    Do they? That’s terrible.
     
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    Perhaps, but the question was how to defeat them if they steadfastly refused to surrender.

    Not if Japan refused to ever surrender.

    Note that a strategy of bombardment means using A-bombs alongside conventional bombs.

    That is incorrect. Japan did not reach out to us with any overtures until after both A-bombs had already been dropped.

    We didn't ask Japan to come and attack us and commit horrible atrocities.
     
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    You are misinformed. MacArthur himself wrote a 40 page report to FDR about overtures toward surrender that his office had received and delivered that report to FDR before the Yalta conference. They were also other overtures about surrender that were being sent out through Vatican go-betweens. No one knows what might have come of those, but we know FDR flatly ignored them. Why? Well, considering his rabid racism and disregard for life and liberty, it is not difficult to connect the dots.

    And to reiterate, the Japanese military had been crushed, her major cities almost all of them were in ruins, and her population was starving to death. Surrender would have come sooner rather than later in any case.
     
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    I'm not misinformed. The government of Japan sent out no such overtures. At least, not until after both A-bombs had already been dropped.

    Not if they refused to surrender.
     
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    That’s incorrect.
     
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    Wrong. History is very clear on the fact that the Japanese government sent no overtures to us until after both A-bombs had already been dropped.
     
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    Arguing with America hating liars is useless.
     
  9. unkotare

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    It was an inevitability.
     
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    You should educate yourself on the topic more completely.
     
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    Yeah, if you find one let me know and I’ll correct him.
     
  12. Toggle Almendro

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    Not if they refused to surrender.

    I'm already one of the world's foremost experts on the subject.
     
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    Surrender was an inevitability.
     
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    Evidently not.
     
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    I actually like talking about this subject though. This is my idea of fun.
     
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    Not if they refused to surrender.

    Your falsehoods do not trump actual recorded history.
     
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    Maybe so. The problem was in getting the vanquished to see that. Best way was to nuke the hell out of them.
     
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    Didn’t take you long to reach the point where you stick your fingers in your ears and start shouting “lalalala!”

    Your concession is acknowledged.
     
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    Is the “best way” to win a war to crush your enemies armed forces, or to incinerate hundreds of thousands of civilians?
     
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    How do liberals get as delusional as you?
     
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    Go ask a liberal about liberals. That’s their problem.
     
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    I have not done any such thing.

    Pointing out that your claims are contrary to recorded history is hardly a concession.
     
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    How about the incinerated civilians in the World Trade Center? That's ok huh?
     
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    That is exactly what you are there for -- to kill people and break and burn the hell out of their stuff. That's war. They started it, we finished it. That war was good.

    Winning is everything. Fight and win, that's the basic idea.
     
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    So, you think the goal is to kill as many civilians as possible?
     

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