Is healthcare a "right?"

She stated that healthcare is not a right in #3168.

 

Oh, I know. But she (?) has an odd tendency to be misunderstood.

 

Yeah it's weird. It almost takes an effort to hide one's true positions.

 

You’re making no sense. I wasn’t directly asked what my opinion was until today. At which point I answered directly. See how that works? Ask a direct question and you will get a direct answer.

 

Everyone has health care available from the very poor to the rich, so name why it's an "utter failure" be specific please.

 

I think you should read it! Plus animal,farm

 

And it bankrupts some..and others have to wait hours and hours in an emergency room. And what about preventative medicine?

 

Please be here at 9:00am tomorrow to provide me with the health care to which I apparently have a right.

 

I'm officially in the Twilight Zone.

 

https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

Go ahead, plug in your zip code and find the ones nearest you.

 

Good God almighty ... okay, I'm asking, pretty please with syrup on top: How, if at all,would you change the way in which health care is delivered and financed in the USA? That's what we're discussing.

 

Asked and answered, as I have been discussing it with various people. Given that you seem concerned with my opinion how is it possible you’ve missed any of those posts? Or are you just looking to troll me?

 

I don't care how long you have to wait in some random, unnamed emergency room for some unspecified illnesses.

As for bankruptcy, two points: first, most people don't save money, so even a $5,000 medical bill will bankrupt them. Second, the reason they don't save is usually an uncontrollable desire to buy garbage and eat out all the time. And put it all on a credit card. We need Spartan discipline, not free healthcare.

Except for me ... I have a toothache and you guys owe me.

 

Wow..what contempt for the poor. This is such an example of a prejudice. People are poor because they buy garbage and eat out all the time. Of course it couldn’t be because they make minimum-wage and work two jobs and can’t save money. Of course not , because then you might be sympathetic. Step one is dehumanize people and reduce them to lowlifes.

 

Can you discuss this maturely and with some intelligence?

 

They don't need to. Congress has already provided us with many rights.

 

Every person who has some money or decent income is under the gun.
Hospital can charge whatever money they want, e.g. $100 per one aspirin pill.
They explain this charges by saying that because they provide free care for poor, they charge more money for those who has money.
It is not health care when patient is afraid to go to the doctor due to risk of loosing the whole saving.

 

Rather that people die, or subsist in pain, than a member of a society be asked to contribute toward bettering the lot of all. It's a point of view, I suppose.

 

Actually the more people die the better off those who are currently receive government sponsored health insurance.
The point of the system is to let die as many people as possible, in order not to pay them Social security benefits.

 

What eludes you? Are you saying that I have a right to healthcare? If so, can you please be here at 9:00am on Monday to give my healthcare to which I have a right?

 

If they have money or a decent income then they can afford private insurance under Obama Care. The only thing that's changed is it's not mandatory. As far as the $100 aspirin, that's not the way it works in the government sponsored hospitals, as I've already said folks that go there prove their income and are charged based on that. For those persons who have some money or decent income and would rather spend their money on something else, I say screw them for poor planning. Fools and their money are soon parted.

 

One issue of course being that the number of govt sponsored hospitals is very small, therefore many poor people don’t have access to these types of hospitals. As a result many people can’t afford medical treatment out of pocket. Hell, even people who make good money, but choose not to have health insurance, can’t afford many types of medical care.

 

Private insurance can cancel coverage or refuse to pay claim so you end up with hundreds of thousands of dollars of unpaid bills.
How do you think those bankruptcies are happening?
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148
(even having health insurance doesn't buffer consumers against financial hardship.)

 

It's already legal and you don't oppose it. Think about where your tax dollars go, like subsidies to Walmart so their employees can be paid a non-livable wage but collect public support at the same time because their income qualifies them. There are many of those but you don't mind. Why do you mind helping people who actually need it?

 

Stupid is as stupid does. Watching football is more important to them than planning to go to the proper facility where they will be charged properly should an emergency arise. They get loaded into an ambulance which generally take them to the nearest hospital, that's the point they need to tell the crew to take them to the County hospital instead. BTW Your article is pre Obama Care.