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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    In 1887, Michelson and Morley demonstrated the paradox that the speed of light did not change as a function of direction. This provided the first strong evidence against of the Aether Theory and led to Relativity.

    Einstein simply assumed that the speed of light was constant and allowed time, mass, and length to vary in order to satisfy the rest of known physics. This resulted in the publication of Special Relativity, in 1905.

    "If the Michelson-Morley experiment had not brought us into serious embarrassment, no one would have regarded the relativity theory as a (halfway) redemption." - A. Einstein.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There physics experiments were done here in the O.C. and we have a street
    named Michelson. No Morley.
    The first American Nobel Prize, and (Michelson) Jewish too.
     
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    And the Michelson and Morley Restaurant! LOL!
    https://michelsonandmorley.cafebonappetit.com/

    I guess all prices are relative to your frame of reference?
     
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    who are the particles??

     
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    it`s a put on
     
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    Transporters are possible both in theory and in practice. We have transported single particles using quantum entanglement from the ground to orbit and back.

    So it could be done with more particles...but it's a question of energy needed to move larger items.

    However there is a problem with teleportation.

     
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    Well, quantum entanglement doesn't actually move any particle.

    Quantum entanglement effects aren't limited by light speed. So, it isn't even a way to move information.
     
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    In practice for things like simple atoms or particles. It is not possible in practice for something like a baseball.
     
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    It isn't a way to transmit information in a useful way. But I'm not sure about how the laws of physics end up being satisfied. If you ask me, it's spooky action at a distance. :D
     
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    Don't buy into what? We've done it.
     
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    If the transporter works by information or some other quantum activity etc. and what nots -
    How could it work to materialize something in space
    where there are no handy atoms or sub atomic parts to assemble a transmission.
     
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    What is the "it" you are referring to?
     
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    Teleportation of the type discussed in the video, for atoms.
     
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    Now I'm confused.

    Teleportation of quantum stuff, yes. Been done.
    Teleportation of an atom, I do not believe "it"
    <i am so bad>
    has been done.

    That stuff can be teleported into deep space
    tells me it is the atoms being transferred
    and not just the quantum this or that.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't say that correctly:

    wiki
     
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    Mass and energy are nothing but information.

    Recognizing this is how we finally resolved Maxwell's Paradox.
     
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    Yes, but if the math didn't work, he would have tried something else. The math is essential.
     
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    And consider this: When you gain new memories, your brain gets a little heavier.

    In order to gain new information, the brain must be driven from a less ordered, to a more highly ordered state. This requires that work be done on the system. This occurs in the form of chemical bonds, which require the addition of energy, hence, by E = MC^2, mass is added.
     
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    Is the universe a simulation? AKA, are we living in a holodeck; or really more a memory module, as did Moriarty?



    2016 Asimov Panelists:
    David Chalmers Professor of philosophy, New York University
    Zohreh Davoudi Theoretical physicist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    James Gates Theoretical physicist, University of Maryland
    Lisa Randall Theoretical physicist, Harvard University
    Max Tegmark Cosmologist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
     
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    Then old folks should have the heaviest brains.
    Sorry, don't buy it.
    I done a lone of neuroscience in undergrad research before med school
     
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    Well, it's basic physics. ;)

    And I seriously doubt any neuroscience students would have a clue. This is based on Thermodynamics and Relativity.

    All other sciences and engineering disciplines follow physics. Not the other way around. It never ceases to amaze me how many people just blow off real science but are in no position to even have an opinion.
     
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    My father the Electronics Engineer who worked Atomic Bomb tests and Aerospace
    disliked Biology feeling it wasn't really a "science".
    I imagine @HereWeGoAgain is of similar opinion?

    Sorry, the brain does not gain weight with learning.
    More likely as change of composition.
    Regardless of physics assumptions.

    Moi :oldman:
    BSc Biological Sciences Magna Cum Laude and Special Honors :)




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    BTW how could it be possible to use a transporter and materialize anything in deep space if matter is not transferred? And if it is all "there" in an information quantumized data stream, how could it be reassembled without a receiver, in deep space? Gracias
     
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    I don't know of any working model that approximates teleportation for atoms.

    I think atoms have to move through space and can be redirected or blocked by matter (even dust), radiation, gravity, etc.
     

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