EGYPTIAN RESEARCHER : WE SHOULD ERECT A STATUE OF HITLER BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID TO THE JEWS

We get the right wing attacks instead

 

That's because we have a larger right wing population

 

Maybe we need a brutal dictator to control these right wingers

 

Trump should be dictator for his term, to get sh-t done.

 

There are extensive reports of the British interacting with the Dutch in India. Are the Dutch natives of the Indian subcontinent?

Nations leave traces in history. Buildings, written documents, art, poetry, pottery, tombs, foundational myths, trade relations with neighbors, coins, wars - to name a few. Centuries old olive groves are not proof of anything, because trees grow and prosper even if nobody takes care of them (unless you think Amazonian jungles are man-made....). What traces did the non-Jewish Palestinian nation leave in its alleged centuries old existence?

Unlike you, I actually know so-called Palestinians whose grandfathers came here from Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia. But their nephews are undoubtedly native Palestinians from an ancient, at least centuries old Palestinian nation, indigenous to Palestine...? Really?

 

History
Is there any evidence that no one except jews lived there for the last 2000 years? Before and During the crusades.... people other than jews lived there..., this is a matter of historical record

There was the ottoman turk empire for centuries... people other than jews lived therrle...again it is a matter of historical record.

When the zionist movement began, non jews lived there and jews were a minority.

There are peolple whose families lived there with long family histories, there are grave yards full of people who lived. Had children, died, and were buried there

 

There were lots of transient peoples going through the land.
Very few who set up a permanent settlement.
The Jews owned the land 17 times in the last 4000 years, more than anyone.
And they own it now, the only way someone else will get it, is if they take it.
Which is highly unlikely.

 

If no one lived in Palestine, who comprised the 800,000 native residents who were driven from their homes during the early part of the ongoing Nakba?
Who comprised the victims of Deir Yassin and other villages that were systematically exterminated by foreign, invading Zionist Terrorist Gangs?(1)

I'll have to agree with "ARDY" (Post #131) as far as it being common knowledge that there has always been a majority non Jewish Palestinian population in Palestine.

Additionally, you're wrong about Olive groves tending themselves. The only thing that the wild trees along the Amazon have in common with Palestinian olive groves is that the trees are wooden. Somebody tended those centuries old olive groves and it wasn't murderous Zionist terrorists & militant "settlers" who have destroyed one million olive trees since 1967.

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You'd be surprised at how many Palestinian refugees I met in S. Lebanon who showed me old photos of their former homes and told of their massacred families and lost lands at the hands of foreign Zionist invader - occupiers.
It is undeniably racist to deny that these accounts of the Nakba survivors I met are every bit as valid as those of holocaust survivors.

It is surprising to most people that at one time Palestine's small Jewish population & Arabs coexisted peacefully(2).
Regrettably, all that changed with the influx of foreign Zionist Terrorist gangs and militant Jewish colonists eager for "free land"


"Deir Yassin Massacre: Who’s a Terrorist?"
http://www.mindswell.org/deir_yassin_massacre.htm

EXCERPT "A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself -- the mopping up as one of the terrorists put it to him. He says that the mopping up had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished of with knives. Women's bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood.

Of them 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in the abdomen while still alive. 52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off. The Jewish Agency and the commander of the British ground troops knew of the massacre while it was going on, however, no one intervened to stop it."CONTINUED


(2) “Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/


EXCERPT "Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies."CONTINUED

 

Well, almost all of them are dead.
There are few living people who can claim they owned the land.

 

These were people rhat built homes, planted orchards.... not the sorts of things transients do

not true

apparently they were transient

That is not the point

 

There it is folks.....what the right really wants

 

It seems you are trying to invent your own points.
The Jews were not transient, they were conquered in battle.

And the point is that the Jews own it now, and the only way you will get it, is to take it in battle.
And that is not going to happen.

 

According to the bible.... that is how the jews took the land the first time
Then other people (like the romans) took the land from the jews
And now the jews took the land again

And, as you say, anyone who wants the land will have to fight the jews for the land
That is an undeniable fact that i do not dispute

I do however object to the pretense that the jews have some sort of entitlement to the land for some reason other than right of conquest. The jews TOOK the land from previous residents whose families had lived there for centuries. These people were not transients as has been claimed. The people who lived there do not “belong” somewhere else, nor do the jews “belong” there. The jews took the land... full stop

 

Shouldn't you be giving your land back to the Indians.

 

Well, lets put it this way..... i do not claim that europeans were entitled to the united states. We took the land and screwed the indians.... same as the israelis. lets not pretend otherwise

 

The Israelis are on the land.
Their ancestors are buried there.
They owned the land 17 times in the last 4000 years.
More than anyone.

They own the land, and if you want it, you have to take it.
It won't be easy.

 

You are all invited to enter Youtube and learn about the Palestinian wall of lies.
"Palestinians" were invented by the son of 1000 Sharmutot.

 

Is there any evidence that no one except Arabs lived in the Arabian Peninsula for the last 2000 years? Medina was once Jewish. Give us Medina back.

Is there any evidence that no one except Indians lived in India for the last 2000 years? Give the Dutch their subcontinent back.

Thinking of it now that you opened my eyes, Jews should get Egypt back, we were there long before Arabs, and long after native Egyptians went extinct, children and graveyards included.

It's not like Palestine was the only place on the whole damn planet were people other than local indigenous inhabitants ever migrated to. Empires throughout history have forced or at least encouraged migrations, in order to root out national sentiments. There were tons of Greek colonies in the Middle East once upon a time. Were the Greeks in those colonies a different, separate nation?

By your logic, Jews should have the right to claim lands in every country where they have - or had until recently, like in Muslim countries - centuries, or in some cases millennia, old communities. Some of those communities are older than the host nation. We're not greedy though, we'd settle for Switzerland.

There's no evidence whatsoever for your "jews were a minority" claim. Ottoman censuses were not reliable.

Jews have been migrating to Palestine long before the Zionist movement began, by the way, both from Europe and the Middle East. In the first half of the 19th century Jerusalem was predominantly Jewish, according to the testimony of Robert Richardson who wrote about his travels to the region:

Robert Richardson, Travels Along the Mediterranean and Parts Adjacent, vol. 2, published in 1822, page 275 in PDF format
https://ia801600.us.archive.org/0/i...181.Travels-Along-The-Mediterranean--Vol2.pdf

The Old City became predominantly Arab after the Jordanian conquest, when Jews were expelled from their ancestral homes in the Jewish Quarter and some 50 synagogues were destroyed. The process had begun during the British Mandate, with massacres of Jews by Arabs in Silwan (with subsequent expulsion of the survivors by the British) and Jerusalem. Likewise for Hebron, home of a thriving Jewish community for more than half a millennium. Gaza has been, during most of its history, a hub of Jewish life. Napoleon's soldiers found enough Jews in Gaza, in the 18th century, to organize a merry massacre, despite strict orders from their emperor to leave the Jews alone. Why is Gaza thought of today as a pristine Arab region from time immemorial, is beyond logic. It's even beyond your own logic, because people other than Arabs lived there. The last Jews of Gaza were kicked out by the British.

There are testimonies about a barren, almost empty Palestine, from other travelers, like Tristram and Mark Twain. No thriving non-Jewish Palestinian nation mentioned, sorry.

There's no evidence that the Palestinians of today are the descendants of people who lived in Palestine uninterruptedly for centuries. There's evidence to the contrary - the travel accounts I've already mentioned, or British accounts of massive Arab immigration to Palestine after the advent of Zionism. The Palestinians' family names help trace their origin: Hariri from Lebanon, Tamimi from the Arabian Peninsula (Bedouins), Badir from Morocco, Masri from Egypt, Erekat (like in Saeb Erekat, top PA official) Bedouins from the Huweitat tribe in the Arabian Peninsula.

There's no Palestinian non-Jewish literature, art, music, specific architectural style, or general infrastructure needed by a nation in its homeland. There are no accounts of a Palestinian non-Jewish nation in historical archives of Egypt and the Ottoman Empire, despite having waged several wars with each other for the region. There are no accounts of trade or diplomatic relations with a Palestinian non-Jewish nation in documents of the neighboring regions. In fact, Palestine wasn't even considered a separate region by Arabs - the whole Levant was called Bilad al-Sham.

The non-Jewish Palestinian nation was invented to serve as a proxy, a tool to help keep Jews in their centuries old submissive status. Hell no.

 

Sure. Just give the US back to native Americans

 

It is quite amazing to watch the convolutions of those who try to write the Palestinians out of history.

Fact. At the beginning of the Mandate, 12% of the population was Jewish.

Eastern European land thieves stole the land from the indigenous population..

Fact. Zionism was and is about colonisation.

 

Hopefully the Jews will write the out of history

 

To the conqueror go the spoils. Always been so. Always will be so.

Life ain't fair. Always been so. Always will be so.

Very unlikely the Jews will ever get Medina back. Life ain't fair.

 

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Or Khaybar, or any of them.

The Muslims won't even offer them.

 

It is certainly what the Zionist Jews want to do then they can go on being the worlds perpetual victims. Other Jews actually support the Palestinians. The Zionist Jews pretend to be the THE JEWS which is obviously a lie.