Are revolvers the most reviled of firearms available?

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  1. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    Illinois supplies three times as many to Illinois as scapegoat Indiana does.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please lets not confuse anti's with facts that go against their narrative.
     
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    Well you are wrong as usual. The NRA has more than one agenda. I won't bother to explain as you won't care.

    The only one here being ludicrous and ignorant is you. Predictions are made all the time as to who is dangerous. Why do you think when sex offenders are released from prison the are given a level number of 1, 2, or 3. Those are numbers assigned to how likely someone is to re-offend.

    As for your issue with a good guy with a gun:
    I guess that sheriff would recommend those without guns go hide under the bed.
     
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    It's Kentucky. That's a null set.
     
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    How would you know about that?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    What you call truth.... isn't.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Fact one.
    Russian politician Alexander Torshin said his ties to the NRA provided him access to Donald Trump —



    Fact two
    FBI is investigating whether Torshin, the deputy governor of the Bank of Russia, illegally funneled money to the NRA to assist the Trump campaign in 2016, .



    Fact three.
    Investigations by Congress and the Department of Justice have revealed that the Russian government has sought to sharpen political divisions with links to the NRA.

    Fact four..
    . Maria Butina, 30, agreed to plead guilty to a conspiracy charge as part of a deal with federal prosecutors, the AP reports. The case, which is separate from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, has offered insight into how Moscow seeked to infiltrate the GOP through the nra.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just allegations by a known criminal and zero facts.
     
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    Sure they do.
    Keeping the pipeline open for funds from Russia to Trump.
    Working hard to keep giving felons and terrorists and drug dealers in Mexico continued access to firearms.

    The nra is a PAC of the GOP.

    Their agendas are numerous..
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More falsehoods, the NRA is not the PAC of the GOP, and it was Obama and Holder, not the NRA who was working hard to run guns to felons, terrorists and drug dealers in Mexico, in fact one of those Fast and Furious firearms that ended up in the hands of a smuggler resulted in the murder of a Border Patrol Agent.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...uest-fast-furious-records-unsealed/379974001/
     
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    Who are the ones that voted against notifying law enforcement when an individual fails a background check for attempting to purchase a firearm?
     
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    False, you are mistaking the NRA for Barack Obama and Eric Holder.

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    The AK-47 type weapon used to kill Terry was later traced to a Fast and Furious purchase from an Arizona shop that was monitored by federal agents. Under Operation Fast and Furious, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed criminals to buy weapons and smuggle them into Mexico, hoping to track the guns to cartel leaders.

    "Fast and Furious" started as a way to capture drug dealers in violent Mexican drug cartels. It ended as part of a scandal involving the Barack Obama presidency that had to be wrapped up following unnecessary deaths.
     
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    Well, at least you’ve stopped blaming illegals.

    One call INTO the law enforcement reps would get you the right vote on that.....NO. It’s not mandatory to do and remains discretionary.
    There are 800,000 failed firearms checks line since 1998. Do you want all of them prosecuted ? Even if many were just unintended mistakes, you’d overwhelm the system tracking them down. You’d have to allocate billions more in law enforcement and prisons.

    It’s discretionary now as it should be.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...n-background-checks-usually-arent-prosecuted/
     
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    They should all be tracked down, investigated and prosecuted if found to illegal attempts to purchase a firearm, and anyone who doesn't support that calls for even a single more gun regulation that person is nothing more that a rights grabbing anti-gunner, who values the so called rights of felons, more than rights of law abiding citizens of the U.S..

    Literally calling for more firearm restrictions while dismissing those who attempt to illegally purchase a firearm is a true oxymoron.

    As for the cost, it is much less expensive to keep a violence prone felon in prison, than it is to allow that animal to roam free and rain more misery and death down upon the innocents, many of who are left defenseless by the anti-constitutional anti-gunners.
     
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    Reporting is not the same thing as prosecution. Reporting means informing law enforcement of an individual who cannot legally possess a firearm, has made the deliberate effort to acquire a firearm.

    Without those who fail background checks being reported to law enforcement as a result, there is no legitimate point in the background check system existing at all if those who fail are allowed to go about their business as if nothing happened. If law enforcement is not notified of a crime being attempted, what is the justification of the system currently in place even existing?
     
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    Security theater. It gets votes.
     
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    There isn't, it nullifies the proposed purpose of doing such.
     
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    So, you the defender of due process want everyone who fails a background check prosecuted ? It’s discretionary. Do you know what discretionary means ?
     
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    Should everyone who commits a felony be prosecuted?
     
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    You backpedaled so fast on that one that you looked like you were moon-walking. Nice job Michael.

    PS: numerous, is more than one.
     
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    Once again. Reporting is not the same thing as prosecution. Is such truly a concept that is too difficult to properly comprehend?

    Law enforcement investigates possible crimes, such as attempted possession of a firearm by a prohibited individual. If the individuals who are being denied on background checks are merely false positives and have no disqualifying criminal records, then such as a serious issue with the national instant check system and needs to be fixed. But if the individuals being denied are truly convicted felons, or others who cannot legally possess a firearm, then they are committing a felony in their efforts and should be brought to the attention of law enforcement so that they can be prosecuted for their attempts.

    You would not advise that allegations of rape and sexual assault not being forwarded to law enforcement, would you? If not, then there is no legitimate reason to oppose the same standard being applied with regard to attempted firearm purchases.
     
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    It is also worth looking into because if a prohibited person is attempting to obtain a firearm, there may be a nefarious reason for doing such and that is something law enforcement should definitely look into.

    The chances are good the prohibited person will not just give up but will seek out other less regulated ways to obtain a firearm or may already have by the time law enforcement stops by.

    I find it laughable the anti's demand all of these checks and restrictions, but when someone is snared by one of them, the very same people demand law enforcement leave the potential criminal alone and ignore a possible violent crime that is being planned.
     
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    I gave you a reference, read it. Individual states can prosecute at their discretion. Get a life. They can do it now. Nothing has changed. Any new law will keep the status quo. It costs a lot in man hours, states want the option. They will decide in the majority of cases.
     
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    It's not a state matter, it's a violation of federal law which the states do not enforce.
     
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