ISIS wife from Alabama will not be admitted to the US, Pompeo says

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  1. Texas Republican

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    Her feelings have nothing to do with the law.

    It just makes no sense for her to be here. She will be harassed until she dies.
     
  2. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your point? Righties cried and moaned about that but cheer this. Funny you don't recognize the hypocrisy. Or should I label them Al Qaeda sympathizers like a member here is labeled an ISIS sympathizers by one of the righty?
     
  3. Mrlucky

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    She's a terrorist. AUMF is still in effect. :icon_shithappens:
     
  4. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you defended and approved of Obama's actions. Good.
     
  5. Distraff

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    How do people and their children lose their citizenship by providing non-violent support to terrorists? What is the legal basis for this?
     
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    Awesome. I hope she likes life in her new hellhole.
     
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    Just like when Obama used a drone to kill a American citizen in Yemen? :)
     
  8. Mrlucky

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    Obama reluctantly tried but Brennan hindered efforts. He got caught with his pants down due to poor intelligence, but yes.
     
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  9. rcfoolinca288

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    And? I supported that just as I would support through the law to remove the citizenship from this woman. You on the other hand, complained about Obama but cheer this one on. Hypocrisy much?
     
  10. Mrlucky

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    You will need to direct that question to the Secretary of State but I believe he was pretty clear in the statement he made.
     
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    So you lack critical thinking to the extent that you will believe whatever what government tells you without examining whether they are right? Wow.
     
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    Oh, I might have more of an opinion once the basis for her status as a Non-US citizen is known. My critical thinking is not necessary. I'm not trying to defend her.
     
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    She was born in New Jersey to a former foreign diplomat. That makes her a US Citizen. Therefore bring her back and consider what criminal charges would apply. Bring her into the jurisdiction of the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY, where terrorist prosecutions have an outstanding success record. Task the professionals with figuring out her guilt or innocence and follow their guidance. That's why we pay those people and they results have been outstanding.
     
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    That’s certainly a good suggestion. But, for some reason I don’t think the government would have a very strong case against her. Playing devils advocate, wouldn’t just denying her re-entry be a simpler course, if in fact that was legal to begin with.
     
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    Even if she is a citizens, she should be allowed back in just enough to be tried for treason and hanged.
     
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    No, he's giving his opinion and defending someone in ISIS.

    You wanna defend her too? I'll wait.
     
  17. jcarlilesiu

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    Why is a "former" foreign diplomat still on US soil when their service ended?

    Send their ass home the day they become "former".
     
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    What is he defending? Spend sometime to read my posts instead of coming to a hasty conclusion and further embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Well we have 4 pages on this thread now which are all totally useless until we know what is the actual status of this woman. Either
    1) as Pompeo states, she has never been a US citizen, never been declared a US citizen, never held a passport and in that case, we really don't care what becomes of her, and there is ZERO reason to let her into this country. And there is zero reason to continue this conversation
    2) Pompeo is lying (I know it sounds crazy, but with the Trump admin record, lying is not out of the question) she IS a natural born US citizen as her family claims, in which case the government can't just strip of her of her nationality. The law doesn't work that way (because imagine if any admin could just start declaring it's "enemies" non citizens without due process). I know a lot of you in these 4 pages are chanting "USA USA USA" because you like the outcome of this story, but if you took two seconds to think of how scary it would be for a government (left or right) to be able to strip a citizen of his citizenship I don't think you would be so excited.
    3) There is a middle ground where she may have been granted US citizenship, but erroneously, and the admin has 'rectified' the situation. If that is the case, the admin must show it's work, and make their case. Stripping someone of their citizenship, disspaearing them if you will, just on the admin's sayso does not fly with me.

    Until the actual situation of this terrorist sympathizer is cleared up. Any discussion on the subject is moot (other than to show how many people here will cheer a result that they like, regardless of the precedent it sets, and the manner in which that result is achieved. You people really need to get some moral and intellectual rigour)
     
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    "ISIS wife from Alabama will not be admitted to the US, Pompeo says"

    She will - otherwise the useful idiots will go ballistic.

     
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    Interesting to see if either of the two islamic dog whistles in Congress bark for her leniency...
     
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    Yes, more clarity is required.
    If she was a US citizen, I don't think the government has the right to revoke her citizenship. If they can do it to her, they can do it to you.

    If she renounced her citizenship (and I think there are rules for what you need to do in order to renounce citizenship) that is a different matter.
     
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    Do you think she actually went through those formalities? If not, she has not (legally) renounced her citizenship.
     
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    Your two statements make no sense. If you are for the rule of law, you will accept that as an American citizen she has the right to return. If you are for the rule of law, you will agree that the government has no right to arbitrarily revoke her citizenship (i.e. revoke it without following the legislation that is in place).

    Whether it is sensible for her to come back, or what her life would be like, are irrelevant to whether a US citizen has a right to return to the US.
     
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    I think they’re trying to deny her re-entry on a technicality. Something to do with her father’s diplomatic status at the time of her birth.
     

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