Watch Venezuela to learn what Socialists have in your future.

The theoretical ideas you push factually endanger my nation and family with a drastic increase in crime and poverty and never point to a working model, ever.

Your only answer to where your working model is is to repeat the word document over and over and make claims that America is absolutely going to go to the extreme when that's just apocalyptic imaginings.

No body sane wants corporations that work together not to complete to change as much as they can and give as little as they can wile paying as close to nothing as they can to be in charge of necessary services. Wanting cops and fire personal with the morale of a fast food employee is just another dangerous and offensive idea.

Where is the working model to show these ideas are not irresponsible and dangerous?

 

The is one more nation that's prof that democratic socialism works, America is its own prof.

 

Well they couldnt vote so theres that. Lol

 

That is hilarious

 

It is here: Medicare, a single-payer system under which all Americans 65+ are covered. Those 55 million Americans comprise the age demographic that is the highest cost risk pool, and incrementally incorporating younger, lower-risk Americans would progressively lower cost whilst achieving multiple other inherent efficiencies of economy of scale, eliminating multiply-duplicated functions, etc. That is the pragmatic approach by which all advanced, democratic nations have actually achieved Trump's stated goal of covering "everybody!" at "less cost!"

Of course, if you are upset by the prospect of progress in reforming the most expensive health care system on earth that fails to cover tens of millions whose bloated expenses are dumped on the American taxpayer, there is always Somalia with its minimal government involvement.

You can take solace in the prospect that progress will be slow in coming. The parasitic middlemen who feed off the current plight will fight tooth and nail to keep gorging off their corpulent cash cow that you wish to keep serving them.

Like most Americans who consistently concur that Trump stinks, I recognize that a lying reality-tv performer whose narcissistic derangement facilitates his believing that his celebrity licenses him to grab women by their sexual parts if he so fancies is a national embarrassment and detriment. Your “left wingers” are your fixation.

Click your heels, salute and goose step wherever you wish.

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Your cautionary evocation of a previous instance of angry, racist folks wee wee'd up by a demagogue demonizing his "Left!" is noted.

 

No no no you've got it all wrong with the Venezuela thing. See that's Democratic socialism, I'm here we want mashed potato socialism, you see it's totally different because mashed potato.

And if that doesn't work we will use surgical marsupial socialism. That's completely different than all the other socialism's.

 

Your myth is noted. The unembellished reality is that all advanced democratic nations have pragmatically arrived at a common paradigm that demonstrably achieves Trump's stated goal of covering "everybody!" at "less cost!"

If you have a phobia concerning governmental involvement that makes you dismiss the proven advantages, advocate for the repeal of Medicare or, better still, the elimination of the huge annual taxpayer subsidy that props up employer-administered plans, whilst freeing capitalistic enterprises from the bureaucratic burden now imposed upon them by the State.

 

Der fuher vill find waze to deal vith zese progressives

 

The conflation of "producing the best doctors and surgeons in the world" with any relation to the efficacy of our nation's healthcare system is a mistake often made by defenders of the disastrous status quo. What advantage does it give the uninsured and untreated to know those who can afford the best care receive it? The goal is universal coverage with better health outcomes while spending a lower % of GDP.........a model available to be copied that is found all over the economically developed world.

 

If you can independently afford high-quality coverage for yourself and your family without being subsidized by an employer and, in turn, the government, you are a highly atypical instance of someone in a position to practice pure capitalism and contract directly with an insurer (who does not, for some reason, choose to reject you or a family member for whatever pretext.)

The vast majority of Americans are not so privileged, and it is that enormous disparity that is being exploited by a vast cadre of parasitic profiteers, resulting in the US having such astronomical medical costs even as it fails to cover tens of millions.

Meanwhile, under Trump, cost continues to soar, and his promise of "something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!" (like advanced nations do) appears as sincere as his repeated vow to come clean with his tax returns.

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Swap Hitler for Trump and you have precisely the same lies.

 

Actually, any tyrant can make your life a living hell, whether a socialist or an autocrat like Trump wishes he is.

 

Trump: In British slang a trump is an audible discharge of flatus from a person's rectum, and it's associated smell.

Ergo, Der "Farterland."

"The dog did it!"

"We don't have a dog."​

 

Is there a point buried in there somewhre?

 

If ideological dogma prevents one from recognizing the reality of a common, pragmatic paradigm that demonstrably achieves universal coverage at far lower cost, I seriously doubt that one might be capable of getting the point.

 

Again. Is there a point buried in there somewhere.

 

Not any that you are able to recognize or appreciate, apparently.

It references the pragmatic approach that is actually achieving Trump's stated goal of covering everybody at less cost, as US costs continue to soar and millions of uninsured Americans are continuing to have their bloated medical expenses dumped on the taxpayer.

 

None other than that you seem to be headed off in some kind of rant.

 

You sure talk some purty words Natty! Actually, I remember when my mother would call the doctor because I had a mild fever, and he would be at the house in that afternoon. We had confidence in our physicians back then. Now, with greedy lawyers and government interference I have a twenty day wait to just consult with my physician about a prostate cancer that is now on the move according to my oncologist. Your world view doesn't leave a very good impression....in spite of all "them purty words" you use.

 

I realized, based on the rhetorical shift in the last six months, that the fear mongering campaign tactics Repubs always rely on were going to focus on socialism as the all encompassing bogeyman in the upcoming election cycle. If you pay attention it was clear as a bell this was coming.
My question to Trumpers is............how do you feel about the $7B in economic aid Don has given to the farmers hurt by his imposition of tariffs in order to keep support for him among them from dropping? Why isn't this politically motivated redistribution of wealth a problem for you?

 

If that is how you need to dismiss objective, empirical data that demonstrates the success of a pragmatic approach in achieving Trump's stated goals of covering "everybody!" at "less cost!", while your ideological dogma rationalizes the astronomical medical cost of the US that continues to soar, that is what you will tell yourself.

 

it isnt because we're still a republic... if the socialusts take over every penny will be redistributed and only the 'ruling class' will be wealthy & free, while the individuals remain entrapped in 'labor camps'... that is socialism after strippin away all the 'sugar coating'...

the socialusts need to find another country to poison, we americans will not allow you to succede here...

 

The US's soaring costs vs the proven pragmatic paradigm aside, you might wish to carefully consider alternative approaches to treating prostate cancer now available - "CyberKnife" therapy or "Brachytherapy" in lieu of the traditional radical prostatectomy. Of course, individual factors vary, but a second-opinion by an oncologist attuned to the latest advances is advisable Good luck.

 

The graph below shows how "let the market decide" actually looks void of tight regulations. They refuse to compete and work together to fleece America wile these multi billion dollar corporation claim poverty would be the result of regulation which doesn't pan out.

The same is true for everything from banking institutions to telecommunications because they answer to a group of stock holders who diversify their portfolio owning stock in all their competitors. Then own stock in the variety of different industries out there so that it boils down to a situation where they live in a extreme state of "the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community" and the rest of us are just their herd animals kept busy with debates like "are black people evil yes/no", "welfare mothers are destroying America" etc. This is what you should be fighting not debating the idea of giving these people our police, fire and roads or fighting the evil blacks, gays and the poor.

 

Go back to my original comments. They were about not liking being told what to do, specifically health insurance mandates. You ranted off into the stratosphere on everything under the sun.

I am retired military. My health care is great. Not all paid for by the government as promised, but when you are young you don't pay much attention to such things anyway. Like I said before, it is bought and paid for.