US Looking To Use Military Force Against Venezuela

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  1. Horhey

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    Donald Trimp and his cabinet will never be able to travel outside of the US if they do this. Like Henry Kissinger. There will worldwide mass protest as well and it will be a central issue in the US elections.
     
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    A military invasion could be the only way to save Venezuela from itself.

    And yes I think the US "aid" was really guns and money for the opposition to rebel.
     
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    You don't save a country with economic strangulation.
     
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    Why worry? You're just advocating the discomfort and starvation of folks who aren't on the right side of the ledger in Venezuela... Why is that? You getting a check?
     
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    Perhaps not but it might contain them.
     
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    Getting rid of Maduro will be fairly simple. Once a suitable force of Maduro opponents can be organized at the major border crossings, then Western air and sea support can crush the pro-communist forces in the military that oppose them. Also, all TV and radio stations must be secured.
     
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    Sanctions going back to the Chavez era were already a form of economic warfare. If places like Iraq or Libya are any indication, then yes. If they cannot force out the current government with economic warfare they are very likely to have plans for some kind of covert or overt military action.

    Not to justify Meduro's powergrab but there simply cannot be a government in the empire's sphere of influence which does not toe the line to the Washington consensus - the ongoing attempt to isolate Cuba economically is undeniable proof of that.

    "Pence directly addressed Venezuela's armed forces, who continue to support Maduro. "For yourselves, your families and your country, we say, make the right choice," Pence said. "Accept President Guaido's sincere offer of amnesty and an inclusive transition to democracy."
    Pence noted Guaido's offer of amnesty to members of the military and said the interim president does not seek retribution. But he added that if they continue to support Maduro, they "will ultimately be held accountable ... As President Trump said, 'You will find no safe harbor, no easy exit and no way out. You will lose everything.'"

    With the empires long history of military intervention and covert political interference in the affairs of nations all around the world just since the end of WW II, Meduro should not take these threats lightly.
     
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    Could be.....considering Maduro has unreliable russian mercs surrounding him....when **** really hits the fan, theyllthdrop him like a hot potatoe))!
     
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    Right about now I'm sure trump would welcome any reason to 'wag the dog'.
     
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    Sanctions are the equivalent of a city under siege in medieval times...(someone from the UN said that... can't remember who) I find it very appropriate


    Also find the contrast striking between the treatment of Maduro and Kim Jong Un
     
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    No you are wrong and hence sounding extremist. They do not need to be rescued from socialism and killing people is no rescue. Venezuela run by the people who are in cahoots with the US was in much the same financial position as it is now during the 80's and 90's. It was Chavez who got them out of it. In addition it has never been socialist. It has been a mixed economy like the UK was before Thatcher and may well be again very soon. Are you going to attack us then?

    The US has not taken recognition of the extreme right Juan Guaido to the UN for acceptance because they know it would not be accepted. You are going against International Law. You have no right to interfere with another country and if the US stopped sanctions they would have sufficient money to provide what the US was offering in aid many times over with their own money to whoever needed it not just the few...no one is fooled by the US strangling Venezuela economically, stealing its money and giving it to a two bit extremist and then pretending to be giving aid while basically being how I heard their Finance Minister describe Bolton, gangsters.

    Obviously your intent is to steal their oil. Your people have come right out and said it and of course Canada is after their Gold and diamonds....but there is another thing which people are thinking this might be about and which you brought up, socialism. Not that Venezuela is socialist, it is not...but there are again hints of socialism rising in the US. Trump presumably is letting his own working class know what he will do to them if they believe they are a democracy and move that way.
     
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    How about a military invasion to help the US from itself? Better yet, arm all the different groups here so we could have a civil war. Think about it, all Washington's interventions and regime changes would have to stop, and finally there would be peace in the world - except for us of course.

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    Hey, this is our Orwellian logic. You kill people to save them.


    Contain Venezuela from what? From invading us? :roll:
     
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    I don't recall us saving Sweden from socialism?
     
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    All decent governments are socialist, they tax citizens to provide for the common good of all.
     
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    I'm against a fake democracy that is really just about oil.

    As for saving them from socialism, they haven't been able to vote out the dictator. Imagine that.
     
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    One person who the US and it's Western conspirators have not paid any attention to is the UN Rapporteur who was sent into Venezuela to suss out the situation. In this video he speaks about the millions, in one case over a billion dollars of Venezuela money which the US has kept its mitts on and not allowed the people to have.

    The amount of money which the US is holding onto which was paid to provide food and medicine for the people of Venezuela is astronomical - so please no pretence of aid. The UN Rapporteur believes the US actions have killed children and are criminal and against all International Law. What is strange is that the US is not really pretending to be anything else than a wild west gunman nowadays - despite giving its people every amount of false news to fool them.

    You were not allowed to hear him. Here they tell it all.

     
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    Contain them from what?

    Who is Venezuela threatening to invade?

    Have you been living under a rock?
     
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    military force for what? blasphemy against Trump?
     
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    Madura's supposed 'right hand man' appears to be taking Trump seriously and has moved two of his children to China.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-two-children-China-using-wifes-surname.html

    The US have apparently added new sanctions. Giving that they were already sanctioning food and medicine it is difficult to imagine what else they can do. This has made me feel very strongly that one country having the power of a reserve currency and the ability to sanction the rest of the world is a very dangerous thing especially when that countries Imperialist days are numbered and it is going crazy as they tend to do at such a time.
     
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