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What happened to Client/Attorney privilege

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by not2serious, Feb 28, 2019.

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  1. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Your attorney talking about in congress, your client/attorney discussions and actions? I thought that it was privileged information. I see now you tell your attorney nothing. If you tell him you really did the crime, he can testify against you?
     
    not2serious, Feb 28, 2019
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    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    There is no attorney client privelege when the topic is whether the defendant broke the law.
     
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  3. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Of course privilege applies, and it's exactly why Trump's legal team reviewed Cohen's testimony. Executive also may apply. Cohen didn't specify what he alleges Trump's team "edited" either. Then proceeded to yammer about Trump's secret unspoken code. :roll: What's that ... wink, wink, don't lie to congress? :roflol:
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well Cohen broke the law and provided no evidence his client Trump did. The testimony was a joke and Cohen repeating Schiff's lines word for word was hilarious.
     
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  5. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    But what if Trumps team said everything is privileged? Sorry, but I guess I have to lie to my attorney so he doesn't "out me". A free lesson learned.
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not true. But I think I know where you are headed.

    In the end, Cohen would face sanctions and disbarment. Given his convictions, his days as an attorney are over, so he doesn't care.

    What people should keep in mind is Cohen's carefully orchestrated speech means very little. It wasn't a courtroom appearance, and he faced no cross examination to speak of.
     
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  7. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    If you confess your crime, your attorney is obligated to inform on you. Not "sometimes" ... EVERY TIME. Trump could have made that legal argument ... EVERYTHING is privileged ... but team Trump was intent on cooperating with the investigation.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Under most circumstances an attorney or client cannot be forced to reveal their discussions. In this case Cohen is volunteering information.
     
    Doug_yvr, Feb 28, 2019
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    No he is not obligated to inform on you. Many guilty people inform their attorney that they are guilty. He can refuse to represent you or can advise you of the best way forward.
     
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    Ah no. Only if you tell your lawyer about a crime you might commit in the future.
    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/attorney-client-privilege.html
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Your attorney cannot enter a not guilty plea on your behalf. He must remove himself and explain why to the court. He will inform the court he is potentially a material witness for the prosecution.
     
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    This is incorrect. If a client tells an attorney he has broken the law, the privilege covers that communication. But if the attorney assists the client in breaking the law, the privilege does not cover that conduct.

    Michael Cohen is no longer a practicing attorney. He was disbarred a few days ago. So the consequences of giving away attorney-client privileged information are non-existent to him.
     
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    It may not be true. Certainly it is privileged. The hearing was entertaining but embarrassing for me as an American. I can say that about all the TV spectacles presented by congressional committees. And they wonder why they have a single digit approval rating.
     
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    Not quite how it works.
     
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    And provided no or circumstantial evidence for every claim made.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So wrong.
     
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    False.

    He presented a copy of the cheque signed by Trump.

    The check that reimburses Cohen for the debt incurred as a result of the payments to Stormy and Karen.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No cross examination? We both know that’s bull.
     
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  19. PrincipleInvestment

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    So illuminating :roll:
     
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    You only think that based on Cohens word. Based on the word of a known liar that's looking to score points towards a reduced sentence.
     
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    Trumpers don't care if he broke the law, is a racist, a cheat and a con man, as long as he keeps their party in power.
     
    superbadbrutha, Feb 28, 2019
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    The check signed by Trump proves nothing other than a client paid his attorney.
     
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    LOL, the racist narrative that Cohen had no proof of.
     
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    When the chips are down, yes he can.

    Attorney client privilege went the way of Habeas Corpus.
     
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