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What happened to Client/Attorney privilege

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by not2serious, Feb 28, 2019.

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    No.

    Just before he became President, Trump told the Treasury Department, under oath, that he had no debt to Cohen.
     
    Arkanis, Feb 28, 2019
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    The bold part covers Cohen.
     
    ronv, Feb 28, 2019
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  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which was amended and if the FEC decides to follow up the punishment is a fine.
     
    Hoosier8, Feb 28, 2019
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course Cohen provided no proof.
     
    Hoosier8, Feb 28, 2019
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    Jimmy79, Feb 28, 2019
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  6. superbadbrutha

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    How about the cancelled checks he provided are they no proof also.
     
    superbadbrutha, Feb 28, 2019
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  7. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Client-attorney privilege, like a lot of other legal niceties, does not apply in a kangaroo court.
     
    RodB, Feb 28, 2019
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    Not totally correct. There is no client-attorney privilege only if the attorney witnesses or knows about the crime in real time. If an attorney is defending a guy against a charge of bank robbery committed last year, and the attorney knows the charge is true, the attorney cannot disclose that.
     
    RodB, Feb 28, 2019
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  9. The Mello Guy

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    Known liar...and what did lie about?
    Oh yah it’s the same lie trump told the American people repeatedly
     
    The Mello Guy, Feb 28, 2019
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  10. The Mello Guy

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    No it doesn’t apply when you conspire with your lawyer to break laws.
     
    The Mello Guy, Feb 28, 2019
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  11. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    The attorney cannot say in front of a judge or jury that his client did not do something if the attorney knows that his client did do it
     
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    Yes, that is true. But the attorney cannot be asked that question. And the attorney can argue and imply that he didn't do it (as is his responsibility.)
     
    RodB, Feb 28, 2019
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    And signed while he was sitting POTUS. Why would the POTUS be paying Cohen?
     
    Pants, Feb 28, 2019
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    The Trump organization updated the statement in 2018 and even if the FEC decides to get involved, it is just a fine.
     
    Hoosier8, Feb 28, 2019
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    Yes, freedom or a lesser sentence is for sale in American. It should never be allowed to be offered. They are paying you to lie so they can get a conviction of someone else.
     
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    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    all republicans are racist, cheat and con men. Can't you come up with some truth? Those are getting old. Who was the KKK, why the democrats.....
     
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    Apparently only one of us knows that. You think questions from Republicans was cross examination?

    You think that was challenging the "evidence" he offered?

    LOL
     
    ocean515, Feb 28, 2019
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  18. truth and justice

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    Did anyone say that "all republicans are racist, cheat and con men" or are you saying that they are?
     
    truth and justice, Mar 1, 2019
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    Well plenty of lawyers were sitting in the room and the time was provided with access unfettered by the rules of evidence or judicial interference. If the republican congressmen sitting in the hearing were ineffective, its because either their witness impeachment skills are rusty or their strategy was crap.
     
    btthegreat, Mar 1, 2019
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    It's not a court room setting. Cross examination is not limited in time, is it?

    For example, when Cohen brought up the copies of the checks, did anyone have a chance to challenge that? Were they given the time to discuss the history of payments received for services rendered? Where they able to dig into how he bills the President? How often the President pays his bills? What would be normal billing amounts? Etc., etc..

    That hearing was nothing but a NDP circus. A liar being paraded by Cohens previous attackers as a paragon of virtue.
     
    ocean515, Mar 1, 2019
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  21. btthegreat

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    yes they had the time to dig and challenge. they can build on each others lines of inquiry and cooperate, if they bother to actually listen to each other and pay attention. They chose to use it differently, often giving more grandstanding speeches for half the time or in debate with the witness or each other with a couple of questions tailing the end, as congressmen looking for a good soundbites are want. They don't do 'pith' well and they do not keep the heat on the witness so much as they keep the cameras on themselves.
     
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    No they didn't. How much time was each House member of Cummings insult to the American people given to ask questions?
     
    ocean515, Mar 1, 2019
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  23. superbadbrutha

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    He said he didn't know anything about it, the checks are dated in 7/2018. So as president he was still paying back hush money which he claimed he knew nothing about, but to Trumpers it doesn't matter.
     
    superbadbrutha, Mar 1, 2019
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    Your premise missed my point. the 'each' number is not as relevant if they know how to listen to the witness and their colleagues that proceded, like attorneys learn to do. If you watched the hearing, you saw a lot of wasted time on both sides, with partisan posturing and grandstanding. They were not interested in getting testimony or establishing a factual foundation. They found a thousand ways to insinuate and remind the listener about cohen's lies that he already told and was convicted of, rather than discover new ones.
     
    btthegreat, Mar 1, 2019
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    Oh I thought we were talking about Trump.
     
    superbadbrutha, Mar 1, 2019
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