Trump Accuses Democrats Of 'Executing Babies After Birth

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    I agree that a parent should have the final say of their minor child as long as the parents choice is within the law. So what would your thoughts be on parents taking their homosexual child to conversion therapy?
     
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    Not to derail the thread...but, it's their kid therefore they are free to do what they want. However, my opinion of parents who would take their homosexual child to conversion therapy is that they are complete and utter ignorant a$$ clowns.
     
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    Sorry if it came across that way I was just seeing if that thought that parents have the say of their minor children was constant. What you said was fair I have those same thoughts of a## clowns regarding people killing babies
     
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    Anyone killing a viable health baby is more than an a$$ clown...they would be brought up on murder charges.
     
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    What does Viability consist of pertaining to law?
     
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    Sad. YOu worry about less than a 100 women a year die in childbirth in the USA every year. 1/2 a million babies are murdered every year. So I will tell you what, I will "sacrifice" $100 to you, and you give me $500,000 in return. Your logic, not mine. And mind you, the actions of these women to get pregnant are a self decision of lack of morals.
     
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    How about the females in the womb. Don't they have the right to control their bodies too?
     
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    Dr Mengele is BAAACK.
     
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    You can’t kill a healthy viable baby. The reason a fetus is being aborted after 21 weeks is because the baby is not viable and causing health concerns for the mother. People aren’t aborting perfectly healthy viable fetuses that aren’t causing health concerns for the mother.
     
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    Roe vs. Wade, the 1973 case legalizing abortion, made fetal viability an important legal concept. The Supreme Court ruled that states cannot put the interests of a fetus ahead of the interests of the pregnant woman until the fetus is “viable.” The court defined viable to mean capable of prolonged life outside the mother’s womb. It said this included fetuses that doctors expected to be sustained by respirators.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/1997/05/fetal-viability.amp

    “It said this included fetuses that doctors expected to be sustained by respirators”

    So in the case of failed abortion where the child in still born as long as it’s breathing the mother doesn’t have the right to abort/kill it anymore. At that point if the failed abortion is breathing even on a ventilation system it is viable therefore it has human rights and killing it would be murder.
     
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    You actually believe that????
     
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    IT is killing in any case, born or unborn. If there is a god, I am sure that court majority who voted to murder babies is burning.....
     
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    I agree with you 100% but if the law says people can do it all I can do is not do it myself and tell other people my personal views on it.
     
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    Born deformed and in need of a ventilation system to keep it alive. That’s some quality of life you're setting up the baby to have.
     
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    The law is the law
     
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    Do I beleive doctors aren’t killing health viable babies? Yes. Can you show me all these cases of health viable babies being killed off?
     
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    Btw...if an aborted baby that is deformed and a health risk to the mother needs to be hooked up to a ventilation system then it’s not viable on its own.
     
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    Oh slate was wrong?

    “The court defined viable to mean capable of prolonged life outside the mother’s womb. It said this included fetuses that doctors expected to be sustained by respirators.”
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/1997/05/fetal-viability.amp

    How is a baby already born through failed abortion a health risk to the mother?

    If it’s breathing whether on it’s own or through respiratory it is viable therefore has the same human rights as you or me
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :roflol::roflol::roflol: Hilarious,,,,, laying yourself open to the fact you have no idea what pregnancy and child birth entail......have no idea what happens to a fetus during birth....or even WHY!!!! :)

    Did you know there's a reason a fetus spends 9 months inside a woman?

    If it's just floating around, for no reason, unattached with no connection to the woman ...then WHY is it in the woman?

    Can it be kept in a bucket of warm water for 9 months and grow?

    Do you really think that ??!!!



    You think what women go through, and sometimes die for, in childbirth, is just a "change of location"....tell that to the loved ones of women who DIED in childbirth...

    Then, to give your posts some credibility, learn exactly what happens as a woman and fetus approach and conclude birth.....

    I know you won't because I think you'd rather just rant...





    So you couldn't address my post and just minimized women's lives …… so typical...

    Pathetic you think having sex is "lack of morals".... I'm sure YOU are very "moral " ;)
     
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    No, fetuses have no rights....rights do not depend on gender.
     
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    You are ignoring the fact that the fetus may have other problems besides respiratory.
     
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    I was referring to why it was being aborted in the first place. I think parents should be able to decide if they want their deformed fetus to live a life of just existing or do the humane thing and end its misery.
     
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    It doesn’t matter

    The Roe decision defined "viable" as "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid."

    If it’s viable and per Roe v. Wade it is , it has human rights so if someone was to kill it that would be murder.
     
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    No because 1. The law says differently 2. Parents should have to right to ignore the law regarding murder to their children? I’m all for parents say but that is a step too far
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    You are ignoring the fact that the fetus may have other problems besides respiratory.



    Yes, it does matter whether the baby has other problems besides respiratory...…..it could have gross deformities and still use a respirator.
     

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