What's going on with Brexit?

... Doesn't matter.
He's still the president until you impeach him or vote him out.

Brexit is the UK leaving the EU, but it's not happened yet, so no buyer's remorse over something we never got..
Trump was sworn in in 2017.

Remorse is waking up and finding out teamsters can't come in from France because of Brexit...

That hasn't happened yet.

So there is actually no Brexit to be remorseful about.

 

yep, but he will never be Presidential, he won, that is about all you can say for the spoiled rich man child

like Brexit, Trump was a fluke

 

yep, and your still dealing with Brexit until your not... good luck with that

 

It's a mess that the UK voted against no deal and the EU can't even work with that because the deal they want us to have, the UK doesn't want and any deal the UK wants, the EU doesn't want.
If the EU doesn't want any deal the UK want, it'll be no deal unless the UK sell us out for a deal we don't want because we ruled out no deal.

 

that was the promise, Mexico still hasn't paid for our wall either

 

If the UK crash out of the EU without a deal, and things go to **** in the UK, then yes, that'll be remorse, but today is 2019, and the UK's in the EU.

Only a headache over this whole Brexit joke if it doesn't happen, or the headache to pave the way for a new country. A very old, new country.
Remorse over the time wasted maybe, or remorse over a shitty Britain with a bad deal not in the EU but stuck in the EU in all but name being told we can't enter into new deals because of this EU deal and having no voice in Europe with them breathing down our necks.

But if Brexit works, and the EU is determined it can't, then there might be some glory.
But that would mean winning independence from a bloc to do bilateral talks and trade with who we want to trade with and set our own immigration policy.

 

This is Brexit today.

Seems it's so confusing, there's a constitutional crises.

 

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It isn't because of Brexit per se that the Japanese car makers are decamping to Japan, it's the indecision of the past 2+ years of May's effing about kowtowing to the EU charlatans, plus the fact it's still going on, so they've been unable - and now (after Bercow) obviously are still unable to? - to plan ahead for new models and electric motor R&D. So well done prime minister May - another fine mess you've got us into!!

 

Well done Speaker Bercow - that's put the cat among the pigeons. The EU is their meal ticket for when they leave Westminster (deja vu alert!! lol). It's the main reason - actually the only reason - they're so hell-bent on ruling out a no-deal exit. The date '29th March' is sending shivers down their collective spines the nearer it gets. They've even stopped trying to fool us now - they're totally neurotic about securing some kind of deal, irrespective of the downsides of what it might mean for us and for our country.

 

Asked by the way ... which deal would the UK want to have?
So far, the UK is only one listing, which does not want UK ... even the revised agreement not, new elections are not, no 2nd referendum, no customs union and the "No Deal" is albeit also just failed.
And otherwise there were in the two years of negotiations, especially claims that were provided with unacceptable cherry pickings.

 

And instead the US taxpayer should pay 5 billion instead ...
I know ... the Trumponians want to make a belief that its just a kind of pre-payment and Mexico will pay later. Only ... did Trump give anything when and how exactly Mexico will pay the wall? No ... there is only silence and this silence says everything about the Lord of the Fake News!

 

"It is almost possible to hear the rustle of bank notes in the chancellor’s hands. Philip Hammond, Britain’s chancellor of the exchequer, could not have been clearer in his Spring Statement that once a Brexit deal was done he would splash the cash in his Budget later this year."

https://www.ft.com/content/1d9cfd0c-...5-23d669740bfb

So bribing English taxpayers with their own money? You couldn't effing make it up. Who will rid us of these charlatans??

 

Wouldn't it just be a hoot if the 'statute of limitations' expired, and we defaulted to a no-deal exit on 29th March? That'd upset our self-seeking and opportunistic 'elected representatives' in The House of Commons big-time? So near, yet so far??

 

Germany loathe Brexit because it'll make the EU weaker and the burden on Berlin harder.

I maintain that Germany depend on a bloc of countries, and this idea doesn't end well.
It starts to look like the USSR or even the British Empire; it starts to look a lot less independent, and a lot more dependent. This bloc mentality is stopping UK and Ireland striking a deal for trade on the island of Ireland over trade between UK & Ireland.

 

"BBC's Kuenssberg reveals Ministers 'FURIOUS' with Bercow - 'GIANT spanner in the works'"

You bet they are?? 'The best-laid plans of mice and men oft go awry!??

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...-Speaker-John-Bercow-EU-deal-Laura-Kuenssberg

 

"May could still hold another vote on her deal, says Brexit secretary
Stephen Barclay says vote possible if PM agrees terms of article 50 extension with EU"

Oh they'll fix it one way or another, have no doubt about that. Probably by extending the A5 to as long-term as possible, and keep paying our contributions in the meantime - the EU would love that. They'd say one to another, 'Would you effing believe it, those stupid Rosbifs have fallen for it yet again. What suckers they are!'

 

I have to contradict you unfortunately ...

This whole Brexit circus, which you Britons are doing with you in Parliament and with your elected politicians, is just repulsive and of course the EU is again to blame for your own British incompetence! How should it be different ...
Until today, only requests came from you that were garnished with outrageous cherry picking and therefore unacceptable. So what do you guys want?

You do not even know it yourself and surely there is only one thing you have: there is only a majority for you not to have a majority for anything you can negotiate with the EU.
And all this is then connected with an already breathtaking ignorance of the EU itself, from which then madness, proposals and demands arise which belong to a comedy show!
The EU has a duty-free and common internal market governed by uniform rules and regulations in force in all Member States, which are monitored by the EU institutions.
Ireland is part of this EU is member and part of this internal market and therefore it has nothing to do with a bloc, but with Ireland having the same rules as Finland or Slovenia ... and having a common border is unimportant!
So you have to deal with the EU as a whole in terms of trade and not me Ireland! That this does not suit the British is clear, but sorry, that is your problem and your stubbornness to accept facts, not a problem of the EU or a guilt of the EU!

Only if Ireland also wants out or leaves the EU, that is no longer valid ... but does Ireland want that? No! So finally accept facts with you on the island!

And one more thing ... somehow I'm always tired of an open or hidden reproach and supposedly evil Germans to read and hear.
This is not necessarily the case with you ... but basically: Germany is the strongest EU economy and one of the strongest economic anions on the planet. Of course, that's why we also have a certain "weight" in the EU, but in the Brexit decisive body - the EU Council - Germany has, as usual, only one vote, like all other members of the EU.
This EU Council decides on the extension, where each member has only one vote and where, according to the statutes, a unanimous decision must be made. Saying a no to the extension, then it was the ...
And honestly, why should the EU agree? The only reason it makes sense is to prepare the No Deal Brexit in the new deadline so that it does not end in chaos and anarchy ... in the EU and with you!
For anything else, there will not be a majority of you British during the extension!

The EU is a federal entity whose members have voluntarily given up some national responsibilities to supranational EU bodies, and EU law became part of their respective national laws. This is perfectly OK and correct, for you, of course, loss of the Suveränität ... which is ridiculous, but about which I am no longer angry at the mass of ridicule of Brexit.

 

We want the best cherries, of course.
We want to prove you're better off outside of the EU than in the EU.
Bilateral deals are the way of the future.
It's the EU dictating that a country can't have a better deal outside of the EU than within the EU because that's the only move it's got to stop people from walking. Meanwhile the EU has to promote itself within the Europe.
As soon as UK walk with a good deal, Italy would want the same and so fourth.

 

Of course you want the best churches, but you should not lose the sense of reality and play the offended child, if the other side shows the middle finger! Or did you seriously expect the EU to say that Britain's freedom of movement within the EU will continue to apply everywhere, but you decide who from the EU grants it and does not grant it?

And that bilateral negotiations are the future is a fairy tale! Conversely, it is correct. Do you think that the UK will be as tough enough in bilateral negotiations with the US, which is just as hard on whatever subject as it is for you with the EU, if the US remains tough? If you say yes ... sorry, then you are a dreamer!

And yes ... to be honest: I want these nagging and disgusting idiots to disappear from the EU ... starting with fascist Hungary. If by idiots governed Italy wants to go too, then Ciao Italia ... and hopefully they will take the Greeks right away with them! Any questions?

 

And as sure as night follows day, May's over there with the begging bowl yet again! I have never been so ashamed of my country of birth as I am now. I never thought we'd ever go cap-in-hand to a bunch of bloody foreigners. The Tories have ****ed up big-time, and I'm now certain that the next occupant of No. 10 will be a Labour prime minister (let's just hope and pray it isn't Corbyn), and our national humiliation will be complete.

"Brexit: Theresa May to formally ask for delay"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47627744

"Under current law the UK will leave the EU with or without a deal in nine days."

But only if a bunch of foreign bureaucrats allows us to. This is like a bad dream.

 

As much as I hope that this miserable comedy show is over as soon as possible ...

A small mistake ... the "evil" foreign bureaucrats you hate can not do it alone!
Your Miss Piggy must make an official request to the EU Council and the EU Council must then decide on it. If there is no request from you, then in reverse inothing happens from EU side too ... and the 29th March is.tjhe deadline

After the last media reports, a formal request by letter from May to the EU is on the way. It is unclear how much postponement / extension she is asking for.

As I've already said, the EU Council has to decide unanimously on the request of your Miss Piggy ... with each member country having only one vote! But that means that even if there is only one single no to the extension ... no matter if e.g. Greece because they want to blackmail the EU for more money or Spain because they are angry because of Gibraltar ... then there is no extension.

Of course, Miss Piggy hopes to be able to enforce the negotiated agreement in your parliament during this time ... but that is a dream. De facto, it's just a matter of making sense of a possible extension, again to prepare everything on the borders, that the trade with "no deal to WTO rules" without chaos on both sides works ... so the structure of border controls, Visa duty to activate tariffs and create lists and bring all the permits up to date, eg that you do not run out of insulin for diabetes patients in the UK.

All other options are just wishful thinking and daydreaming. And now I want to have a no deal after WTO Rules Brexit, but without chaos and anarchy!

 

There's somebody just like you on my other messageboard, Mandelus - I've just been talking to him. His board name is Gerry T, and if he's not a hired anti-Brexit propagandist of the EU like you are, I'll eat my hat.

 

Am I a hired propagandist of the EU? Sorry Cerberus ... I'll laugh away now!
You know ... I'm fighting those idiots as well, claiming 9/11 was a conspiracy and no one ever landed on the moon and also thoise about topic Pearl Harbour. Funny ... for these clowns, I'm ... a German ... a nagged US CIA/FBIS/ NSA propagandist and one of the NASA.

No ... the problem is that I'm giving you facts that you do not know and maybe do not want to know, just because they are uncomfortable and make your justifications for a Brexit look ridiculous because of the real facts I tell. And if someone has no more facts, then they react exactly as you do now or play the stubborn little child.

You personally have a lot ... sorry ... nonsense told about the EU claimed things that just are not true. You did not know who in the EU decides about your Brexit and have constantly attacked Tusk, Juncker and also Barnier ... not to forget my country and our Chancellor of course. Sorry ... the EU Council is deciding what you did not know.

What should I think of you if you blame the EU for things, even though you have no idea about the EU and the real facts?

 

I mean bilateral talks with Ireland, France, Spain, NL and Germany (as well as USA, India, Australia) etc.

The EU is a bloc of countries blocking progress like the USSR.

Members of the EU should have bilateral talks with the UK and to hell with dealing with the EU as a bloc.

Does the EU think it's a country!?

 

Sorry that with the blocking of progress is just nonsense. Especially the common EU internal market is an engine of progress for the members ... and look on your own economy about until you made Brexit decision!

Anyone wishing to trade with an EU member from outside will then have access to this common EU single market. That is why the EU as a whole is responsible for this, and thus it is necessary to negotiate with the EU and not with a single Member State.

Of course, this does not appeal to all those from outside the EU, because instead of negotiating with little Ireland here, little Portugal there, nice Slovenia there and beautiful Belgium, you have to negotiate with the "giant" EU and everyone is there to the maximum only at eye level, rather smaller and weaker in the negotiations. That's not what suits you in the UK, because many of those who vote for Brexit only now realize that Brexit will be the same for the UK ... thanks to a huge amount of ignorance in the UK about the EU.

Is the EU a country?
No ... but the EU has decided on a common internal market of all 27 members, sovereign members, with all things that belong to them.
And in order for everything to work, these members have delegated national responsibilities to EU institutions, whose composition and control are shared by the 27 members - EU Council, EU Parliament.
And in order for all this to work with duty-free and VAT-free and intrinsically barrier-free trade within the internal market, national law, etc., has been adapted to the EU's common rules, regulations, standards, etc., and EU law is thus also on the contrary national level Law.
Exactly that does not suit you Britons, because you allegedly lost your sovereignty because of it as is claimed ... but that is and so it is good!

And that's why you British have to negotiate with the EU in terms of trade in Brussels and not with the 27 Member States each ... which of course you do not like, but that's your own fault!