Gallup: Ocasio-Cortez Is Losing Favor With America

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  1. US Conservative

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    Her district and the other "justice" dems were selected as places where a far leftist could win.

    Then there was some sort of audition to be selected as a candidate.
     
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    Nope.

    Bonespurs' tweeting is reaching epic levels of insanity lately.
     
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    You wanna be like mike?
     
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    Mike who?
     
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    Ask around. You'll get it.
     
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    (Here I am, asking around)

    Who is Mike?
     
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    his earliest statement was in a 2000 Advocate article.https://www.advocate.com/election/2...cate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicans What are your thoughts on gay marriage?
    I think the institution of marriage should be between a man and a woman. I do favor a very strong domestic-partnership law that guarantees gay people the same legal protections and rights as married people. I think it’s important for gay couples who are committed to each other to not be hassled when it comes to inheritance, insurance benefits, and other simple everyday rights.

    Next we go to Bill O'Reilly https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/donald-trump-sits-down-with-bill-oreilly
    O'REILLY: All right. Gay marriage, favor it?

    TRUMP: I'm against it.

    O'REILLY: Why?

    TRUMP: I just don't feel good about it. I don't feel right about it. I'm against it and I take a lot of heat because I come from New York. You know, for New York it's like, how can you be against gay marriage? But I'm opposed to gay marriage.

    O'REILLY: They say, the gays, that this violates their rights, that they are American citizens and they should have a right to live the same way heterosexuals live, and you say?

    TRUMP: Well, I think it's a tough situation, and I'll tell you what I say. I say that we have other problems. We have other problems in this country. And I don't think a president should be elected on gay marriage or not gay marriage because we have some very big problems. Based on everything I see, Obama, who said basically the same thing as I do, I think he is going to come out in favor of gay marriage.

    O'REILLY: Yes, he will. But you remain opposed?

    TRUMP: I am opposed, yes.

    Now number 3. This was a fox news interview in 2016.

    WALLACE: But, Mr. Trump, let’s take one issue. You say now that the Supreme Court has ruled that same-sex marriage is the law of the land and that any politician who talks about wanting to amend the Constitution is just playing politics. Are you saying it’s time to move on?

    TRUMP: No, I’m saying this. It has been ruled up. It has been there. If I’m a, you know, if I’m elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things.

    But they’ve got a long way to go. I mean at some point, we have to get back down to business. But there’s no question about it. I mean most — and most people feel this way.

    They have ruled on it. I wish that it was done by the state. I don’t like the way they ruled. I disagree with the Supreme Court from the standpoint they should have given the state — it should be a states’ rights issue. And that’s the way it should have been ruled on, Chris, not the way they did it.

    This is a very surprising ruling. And I — I can see changes coming down the line, frankly. But I would have much preferred that they ruled at a state level and allowed the states to make those rulings themselves.

    WALLACE: But — but just to button this up very quickly, sir, are you saying that if you become president, you might try to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage?

    TRUMP: I would strongly consider that, yes."

    Trump intends to nominate justices to a senate full of Majority party members who did not evolve and brag about it and campaigned on not evolving. Now lets look at the ruling of SCOTUS. Four justices dissented. Scalia, Roberts, Justice Samuel Alito Jr. and Justice Clarence Thomas. Each one was nominated by a Republican president. Of the five justices who voted in favor of marriage equality four of them were nominated by Dems with only Kennedy to break an 8 justice pattern. And you are still worried about what Dems did not do in the 1990s.
     
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    Whatever the case, Trump is now more popular in New York than Cortez is.

    Poll shows Trump now more popular than Ocasio-Cortez in New York

    Trump creates jobs. Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez kills them. New Yorkers are noticing the difference..
     
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    She is pleasant on the eyes. If I was a young man I would let her bed me down for a vote. I use to tend bar, so, we do have something in common.
     
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    Every democrat president and candidate prior to the oberfel decision condemned same sex marriage. At no time during the points when Democrats held Congress and executive benches did they ever get anything done.

    Democrats have done absolute squat. Trump did not condemn same sex marriage in his campaign or presidency.


    These are facts. You cannot argue against them. If the Democrats are allies now it is through extreme reluctance. Saying they were less adversarial than Republicans does not make them better.

    Your point is demonstrably wrong no matter what Trump said 16 years before his presidency.

    Your post is not the least bit relevant
     
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    Washington Examiner:
    Trump creates jobs. Ocasio-Cortez kills them off. New Yorkers value the distinction.

    ZeroHedge
    Darn nice climb since Trump took over
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    Small wonder that Job Creating Trump is so much more popular than Job Killing Cortez.
     
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    That was my guess
     
  16. US Conservative

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    Nailed it.

    Hillary was anti gay marriage as well.

    I enjoyed this rubin report way back...

     
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    How about you rebut my post instead of ignore it. I am not interested in what Trump said 16 years before his Presidency. We will put the 2000 comment aside. In 2011 he said " "I just don't feel good about it," Trump said. "I don't feel right about it. I'm against it, and I take a lot of heat because I come from New York. You know, for New York it's like, how can you be against gay marriage? But I'm opposed to gay marriage."
    Here is what he said in the 2016 campaign. “It has been ruled upon. It has been there. If I’m elected I would be very strong in putting certain judges on the bench that maybe could change things, but they have a long way to go. I disagree with the court in that it should have been a states’ rights issue.”, When Wallace pressed Trump, asking whether he would specifically choose justices who are dedicated to overturning Obergefell, Trump replied, “I would strongly consider that, yes" Does that help?
    To this day he is an opponent of same sex equality and will work to get Obergefell overturned.
    Every republican President and candidate prior to obertfell condemned same sex marriage including as I have proven Mr. Donald Trump. He did so in 2000. He did so in 2011 and he did so in Jaunuary 2016. He continues to threaten to put justices on to overturn it. At no time during the points when Pubs held congress and the executive benches did they ever get anything done to stop marriage inequality. Republicans have done absolute squat . Dem Presidents nominated the justices on the bench that voted for Obertfell while Republican presidents nominated the ones that dissented. Dems voted for a President who evolved in favor of marriage equality. Republicans voted for his opponent who promised to do as much to kill it, as Trump does today. Dems voted for a nominee who evolved in favor of marriage equality. Republicans voted for a President who consistently opposes marriage equality and will kill it with his appointments.

    Your denial of historical facts proving that Dems are now the party of gay equality and that republicans are still the party of religious zealotry and orientation based bigotry.
     
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    Well it's not the first time I've encountered this. People who tend to vote Democrat seemed to be a little more open minded that I agree with. But the Democrat party... Hell no.
     
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    I have no interest in rebutting it if I did I would have. It couldn't be less relevant to the point you are making a point you were wrong about.

    Your point was that Democrats supported gay rights and they didn't. Carrying on about what Trump said years before his campaign has no bearing whatsoever on this discussion.

    Besides Donald Trump was a Democrat at one time.
     
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    My point is that Dems did support gay rights, just not on your agenda driven timeline. Obama announced his support in 2012 and worked tirelessly ever since to see it happen including nominating two justices that decided the case. Bill Clinton announced his support in 2011. Jimmy Carter announced his support in 2012 and Hillary Clinton did so in 2013. Carrying on about how you did not hear Trump oppose marriage equality when in fact he has long expressed continuous opposition to it, has no bearing on reality. Nothing in your posts matter at all. In every respect and on every issue, Dems are two steps and five years ahead of republicans on Gay rights. Even if they did not get there fast enough, they got there a lot faster than republicans. Republicans still don't support marriage equality and are trying to kill it. they are just a little less desperate about it than they were in 2013.

    Republicans have not 'moved to the left on social issues. That was another fabrication of yours. They oppose what they opposed 35 years ago, and they support what they supported 35 years ago.
     
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    you can be naive enough to believe that if you want. But I've heard them say over and over and over in every election since Bill Clinton that they think marriage was meant for a man and a woman.

    And in the several times since then that they've had a majority in the House and Senate and also the executive office they did nothing.

    If you call that support I don't want to know what you think condemnation is.
     
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    you can be naïve if you want to, but when Donald Trump said he opposed marriage equality in 2000, and 2011, and 2016, it means he opposes marriage equality. When you lie about Trump's positions, and when you lie about how the GOP has moved to the left on social issues, I will call you out. I will prove you wrong. When you claim to only hear Dems in statements before they changed their position publicly , and disingenuously ignore every word they said after words as though they still hold the same position as they had in the ninties and early 2000s , I will call you out as a liar.

    Democratic presidents nominate justices that vote for marriage equality. Republican presidents nominate justices that vote for continued state sponsored discrimination.
     
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    okay I am under no delusion that any political party has my rights and their best interests. You are.

    I guess I was being too nice when I said you were naive you are actively burying your head in the sand if you are under a delusion that the party that signed the defense of marriage act into law has any interest in protecting same-sex couples rights. That was an act specifically designed to deny same-sex couples equality and it was signed by Bill Clinton not Donald Trump.

    so go ahead and shove your head under the sand and pretend that these people give the slightest s*** about your rights I'm not that stupid.
     
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    you are much more stupid. You think that Donald Trump did not condemn marriage equality when in every single instance he spoke on it, he opposed marriage equality.
    Dems are protecting my rights now and have been at least two steps and five years ahead of the GOP on every gay rights issue since the early 70's. DOMA is no longer law of the land, in part because Obama made it clear he did not expect or want the Department of Justice to defend it in court because both he and his AG (another Dem ) concluded the law was not constitutional and by nominating justices that would vote on the bench for marriage equality.
     
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