America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

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  1. PPark66

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    I’m thinking we should pay a weekly allowance for collecting, bagging, and carrying to the curb our white supremacist trash.

    Evidently we’ve been lazy.
     
  2. dairyair

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    I am not arguing against that. Yes, they should give back to their community, if they care about their community.

    But if that doesn't happen? Or doesn't have enough money helping from them, then what?
    Nothing?
     
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    What did you mean with that post?
     
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    Most people who use welfare are not life long recipients.
    Most need it for short periods of time until a life situation becomes better.

    Are there some that abuse it, yes. No system is 100% perfect.

    I asked you what you'd do with the lady's kids in your video?
    If she wasn't given welfare, what happens to the kids?
    Should the state take them and put them in a homes?
     
  5. dairyair

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    I agree, parental involvement is likely the biggest factor in how good a student will do in school.
    My wife and I had to work our butt off on one of our kids because he did struggle with school work. Just had a hard time comprehending things basically.

    But when parental involvement is non existent as happens, somehow another motivating factor needs to be found.

    I wonder how those numbers have changed over the last 50 yrs.
    Is the grad rate gap closing, staying the same or getting wider?
     
  6. Bow To The Robots

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    Ya rolls the dice, ya takes your chances... Remember what I was saying earlier about taking responsibility for one's actions?
    Yeah, bummer. Remember what I was saying earlier about taking responsibility for one's actions?

    We choose to support the kid, or rather it is chosen for us through the mechanations of the welfare state. A responsible person would not create a burden for others. Remember what I was saying earlier about taking responsibility for one's actions?
     
  7. Bow To The Robots

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    Please, if I have to explain to you that Al Sharpton is an allegory, well... I guess I can't help you.
     
  8. Bow To The Robots

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    Glue it shut... she can't seem to keep her legs closed and expects me (and you) to "be accountable" for her open legs... to "take responsibility for allllllll a dis..."
     
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    The state should not be tasked with raising children for people who choose to act irresponsibly.
     
  10. ShadowX

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    Let me ask you a question. Let's assume, hypothetically, that the problem is not just a culture issue and not just a poverty issue. What then?

    For instance, lets look at this study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6872626 Granted it's 1972 but I don't think the point of the study would change. Of course they'd never commission a study like this today because it would look bad for the left.

    Both Levin[8] and Lynn [9] argued that the data clearly support a hereditarian alternative: that the mean IQ scores and school achievement of each group reflected their degree of African ancestry. For all measures, the children with two black parents scored lower than the children with one black and white parent, who in turn scored lower than the adopted children with two white parents. Both omitted discussion of Asian adoptees.

    Now while there are certainly other mitigating factors, it appears that IQ is genetic and varies significantly based solely upon race. Perhaps they simply CAN'T, as a whole, perform as well as their peers because they are, on average, not as intelligent? Therefore pumping billions of more dollars into their education system would be far better spent elsewhere.

    In other words, at what point do we simply acknowledge the fact that on average they're not as intelligent, more aggressive and prone to the victim mentality. Because as of now, it appears as though every other issue you folks place blame on and try to fix... never fixes the problem.
     
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    Pretty much yeah. Throwing money at the problem won't solve it. This has to be a somewhat bootstrap operation where black culture changes itself from within.
     
  12. dairyair

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    And my saying him dying is also an allegory.
     
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  13. dairyair

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    Go for it then.
    I won't argue.
     
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    The state is responsible 1 way or another.
    Either through helping, if possible. By welfare, if needed, or by housing in the prison system for the rest of their lives.
    Any way one slices it, the state is ultimately responsible.
     
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    I can't speak to the IQ measurement.
    I've heard/read that the way the test measures is not equal towards all. And I don't think IQ is a big factor towards learning the basics of the 3 Rs.

    Limits of IQ tests
    A recent study by Adam Hampshire of the Brain and Mind Institute confirmed what many people already believed: IQ tests are poor indicators of intelligence. They developed a test designed to evaluate 12 “pillars of wisdom” in order to obtain a comprehensive understanding of an individual’s cognitive skills, from memory to planning. The 12-part test was taken by over 100,000 people and the results proved that there was no single “quotient” that could measure intelligence. They identified at least three factors that were essential to predicting intelligence: “short-term memory; reasoning; and finally, a verbal component.

    And if white parents of black kids makes an IQ score higher, that say it may be geared in a certain way that isn't all fair?
    Are brains wired differently? Perhaps. Maybe that means different teaching methods.
     
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    Ok then.
    There is no reason to whine about it.
    It is what it is, and likely isn't going to change much from within.
     
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    Whine no but push successful blacks to step up yes.
     
  18. ShadowX

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    Can you point to ANY objective measure/test of intelligence in which blacks performed at a better level or even comparable to their white or Asian counterparts?

    I'm not saying that makes them bad. But maybe we should recognize that and stop trying to push them into college and passing high school with billions of dollars to artificially inflate their performance. They need to learn skills that are more suited to their abilities. We need more technical colleges and high school classes geared towards technical skills like mechanic work, welding, plumbing, pipefitting, carpentry, masonry work, farming, etc etc
     
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    You still don’t understand we’re not talking about Al Sharpton, right...
     
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    Sounds like a great argument against social welfare.

    Get rid of that nonsense, and then you can talk about how we have to pay by removing the corpses from the streets. It would be much cheaper than social welfare, so I'm all for it.

    Great idea, dude!!!!
     
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    What does common defense mean to you?

    Do you think it means every citizem is entitled to a bodyguard furnished by the government to protect them 24 hours of the day?
     
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    Of course welfare os a failure

    Instead of solving the poverty problem welfare makes it easy for losers to continue making stupid decisions and remaining losers
     
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    So, what color are most of these people that write the laws , government programs and policies that discriminate against you for being white?
     
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    Good,
    What steps are being taken to get successful blacks to step up.

    Some are doing just that.
    https://urbanintellectuals.com/2014/04/08/10-black-celebs-who-give-back/
    https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/nba-players-giving-back-speaking-up/
    https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/29/...-hurricane-harvey-patrick-peterson-foundation
    https://www.nbcsports.com/most-charitable-athletes#slide-26

    Several are doing so already.
     
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    We should be pushing Asian kids to college. Poor white kids can clean the toilets since they have low iq
     

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