Brexit Comedy - A reckoning from the other side of the channel!

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Mandelus, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Umm . . . absolutely nobody who's ever studied British history is the least bit surprised regarding how their government and politicians have handled this. It's been almost as huge a screw-up and comedy of errors as had it been the United States' Legislative branch doing the equivalent. That's what happens in a system that tries to promote true political equality. Everyone has an opinion and they all stink.

    The E.U. is relatively fortunate in comparison since there is no genuine political equality; as generally speaking ONLY the Left and the far Left control pretty much everything. At the end of the day when only one perspective ever really rules; things run much more smoothly. Mind you, things are still screwed up, but at least the elite ruling class and their controlled media outlets are generally happy about the results; and that's all that really matters.
     
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    The Don Well-Known Member

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    Really ?

    Unless you have a very unusual definition of Left and far Left, I don't think this is true.

    Even if you think Angela Merkel is a commie, Viktor Orban is certainly right of centre.
     
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    Did you have some comprehension issue with the caveat of GENERALLY SPEAKING?
     
  4. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The EU Council decides for 5, maximum 7 years, who has to pay how much into the EU budget. Decide, that means to agree has also the EU Commission and the EU Parliament too.
    The annual budget, for what the EU spends how much, is proposed annually by the EU Commission and must be approved and decided by the EU Parliament![/QUOTE]

    Well I obviously wouldn't know the bureaucratic pecking order (it's interesting that you do though????), so who is responsible for approving and signing off the budget audit? Somebody must be in charge, and accountable??
     
  5. freedom8

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    I agree with your whole post. I just want to add that these clowns have even voted to deny themselves the right to submit another plan!!!
    They have voted themselves into a corner. Let see if they can find a way to get out of it.


    Regarding their hate for the EU, most people do not even realize that ALL the regulations imposed on them by "Brussels" have been approved, directly or indirectly by their then UK government; the EU commission's only power is to try and enforce them.

    But this is the Britain we love, isn't it, specially when it is so out of touch with reality.

    Remember that famous BBC weather bulletin years ago: "Fog over the Channel; the continent is isolated". That says it all...

    Now for those who complain they didn't get a fair exit deal, 3 things to consider:
    1. The other 27 didn't ask them to leave;
    2. When you leave a club, you can't expect to keep the same advantages as those who stay in;
    3. Between the countries that are inside the EU and those who are outside the EU, there obviously exits a border, and that border has to be somewhere. A pity that the lousy UK politicians didn't realize that until a few months ago (nor did anyone else in the UK apparently, not even the Northen Ireland politicians! - the same goes for Gibraltar no one seems to worry about btw -)
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well hey-ho - that's how our democracy works so you'll just have to get over it . . . and hopefully you won't have to put up with it any more after 29th March. Odd that in your bullet point 2. you should mention the word 'club': I mean who wouldn't join a club (viz. the net beneficiary member states) if the other members of it (viz. the net contributors) pay your membership fees? The whole concept is crazy?
     
  7. David Landbrecht

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    Looks as if England is likely to have things exactly as they wanted; not in and not out of the E.U., at least for a while longer.
     
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  8. freedom8

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    I coudn't care less personnally and, in fact, I think the no-deal brexit would be better for...the EU.
    Uk has a preferential treatment within the EU as it receives back 66% of its contribution, as explained several times here by Mandelius. Now UK wants to keep the advantages of the club without having any obligation. And they say the other EU members are bad people because they don't accept it! Weird isn't it?
     
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    :rolleyes: It has nothing to do with effing 'clubs', it's to do with sovereignty, domestic as opposed to foreign legislation, and self-determination, which means we don't want foreigners telling us what to do??
     
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    Obviously, you know nothing about the way the EU works: none of that "foreign" legislation was passed without the approval of the UK govt.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :rolleyes: I know, that's why I refer to the UK as 'a rubber-stamp for Brussels'? FFS! :wall:
     
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    No, you don't, that's why you're constantly blaming the EU and its members for the mess your politicians have put you in!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well how can I possibly deny that! lol
     

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